06/24/2025
$MOS Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript Summary
The paragraph introduces the third quarter 2023 earnings conference call for The Mosaic Company. It mentions the participants and the format of the call, as well as the presence of forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. The CEO, Joc O'Rourke, will provide opening comments and there will also be a fireside chat and open Q&A session. O'Rourke also announces his retirement at the end of the year.
The current CEO of Mosaic is proud of the organization's accomplishments, particularly in identifying and developing new leaders. The Board of Directors has appointed James O'Rourke as the next CEO, starting in 2024. Bruce Bodine, a Mosaic veteran, has been chosen for his strategic mindset and leadership skills. He plans to continue growing Mosaic's presence in the fertilizer industry and creating value for shareholders through investments in specialty fertilizers and non-commodity products.
The agriculture market is currently facing tight conditions, with concerns about food security and constrained crop production. Global stock to use ratios for grain and oil seeds are at historic lows, indicating a struggle to meet demand. Weather conditions, particularly in developing markets, have affected production, and El Nino patterns are impacting Southeast Asia and Australia.
The global fertilizer market is facing challenges due to under fertilization, geopolitical conflicts, and changing demand for renewable fuels. This has resulted in reduced production levels and elevated crop prices, leading to a focus on maximizing yields. The supply of potash and phosphates is being impacted by sanctions, weather disruptions, and changes in producer behavior, with exports from the former Soviet Union remaining limited. Belarus, in particular, has faced challenges in finding outlets for its shipments.
The global potash and phosphate fertilizer market has been impacted by various factors, such as labor strikes, rail congestion, and terminal repairs in Canada, as well as conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine. This has resulted in a limited supply of fertilizers, leading to a projected shipment range of 64-65 million tonnes. China, the largest exporter of finished phosphate fertilizers, has also faced export restrictions and a shift towards industrial markets, reducing their exports. However, there has been strong demand for fertilizers, particularly in developing markets, leading to high shipments in North America and Brazil. In India, imports continue to be high due to strong demand.
The paragraph discusses the current inventory levels of phosphate and potash, indicating that they are low and suggesting that shipments are going straight to the ground. It also mentions that there are indications of price acceptance, which could lead to higher shipments in the future. The company's portfolio is well positioned to meet customer needs and deliver value to shareholders. In the potash segment, strong sales volumes in North America are expected to continue in the fourth quarter, with a shift towards overseas sales. In phosphates, operations quickly recovered from the impact of Hurricane Adelia, and repairs are being made at the Faustina facility in Louisiana. Sales volumes in Brazil were strong in the third quarter, as the company worked to destock high-cost inventory.
The distribution business of the company is performing well and is not facing the same pressures as others. The sales volume for the fourth quarter is already committed and priced, and the distribution margin is expected to be between $40 to $50 per tonne. The company remains committed to investing in the business, maintaining a strong balance sheet, and returning capital to shareholders. The company plans to reduce total capital spending for 2024 by up to $200 million. The company has a strong balance sheet and has returned nearly $900 million to shareholders through buybacks and dividends. The company is well positioned to benefit from the increasing demand for fertilizers and is returning significant capital while still investing in the business. The CEO expresses confidence in the company's future under the leadership of Bruce. The company addresses some common questions about recent rulings regarding their countervailing duty petitions.
The Department of Commerce raised duties on Russian products and lowered duties on Moroccan supply, based on their assessment of foreign subsidies. Unfair subsidies from foreign governments can harm the industry, but global supply and demand remains unaffected. Mosaic Fertilizantes has performed well in Brazil due to their ability to directly restock inventory, unlike other companies reliant on third party distributors. Prices have stabilized and distribution margins have returned to expected levels.
The speaker discusses the company's expected increase in margins due to a high percentage of product being committed and priced in the fourth quarter. They also mention managing through market volatility and the value of integrating production and distribution businesses. The next question is about the potash market and how supply uncertainty has not affected pricing. The speaker expects a rebound in demand due to the relationship between under-application of phosphate and potash and below trend yields. They also mention strong demand in North America and Brazil, with customers buying tonnes for in-season application.
In the paragraph, the speaker discusses the strong demand for potash in Brazil and China, driven by concerns about food security and high commodity prices. They also mention expected demand growth in Southeast Asia and India, as well as a potential supply shortage if production does not meet demand.
During a conference call, Steve Byrne from BofA asked a question about Fertilizantes. Joc O'Rourke, the speaker, confirmed that about 20% of the fertilizer volumes distributed by the company come from their own phosphate production in Brazil. However, the EBITDA contribution from this production is expected to be higher than 20%. The company is working on optimizing their production mix and reducing costs to improve profitability.
Richard Garchitorena from Wells Fargo asks about the outlook for potash and how Nutrien plans to handle production levels next year. Joc O'Rourke, CEO of Nutrien, responds that they expect to maintain similar production levels as this year, with a possible slight increase due to demand. He also discusses how Colonsay has been their swing plant and they prioritize meeting North American demand and Campotex's international sales program.
The speaker is addressing a question about Mosaic's potash production and demand for the upcoming year. They state that they expect strong international shipments in the fourth quarter and plan to use their Colonsay facility to meet this demand and replenish their inventory. They also mention the ramping up of their Esterhazy K3 facility and the addition of their hydroflow project, which will optimize their capacity. They clarify that they will reassess the role of Colonsay in the long term, but for now, they plan to produce at a similar level as the previous year, potentially growing with the market. The speaker acknowledges that there may be some confusion regarding the expected growth in demand and production, but they assure that Mosaic will make decisions based on maximizing value and considering the seasonality and variability of the market.
Joc O'Rourke discusses the potential growth of the market and how it may be supplied by various players, including Belarus, Uralkali, and EuroChem. He mentions the ramp up of EuroChem's Volga Cali mine and the potential for Canpotex to supply an additional 300,000-400,000 tonnes. He also notes that North America had a good year but it is uncertain if it will continue. He concludes by stating that Canpotex has never reached those levels of tonnage before.
The speaker discusses the challenges faced by the company in supplying phosphate due to logistical and market issues. They mention recent events such as floods, rail problems, and port strikes that have affected production. The speaker also mentions plans to invest in purified phosphoric acid and a powder plant for lithium iron phosphate cathodes, with an estimated cost of $0.5 billion. A question from a participant addresses the expected return profile of this investment.
The speaker discusses the long term demand and pricing for their company's product and the potential for growth in the electric vehicle and stationary power markets. They also mention the importance of fertilization in plant growth and show a clear relationship between yield and application of phosphate and potash.
The paragraph discusses the use of nitrogen in agriculture, particularly in Asia, and how overapplication of nitrogen is not helping yields, while underapplication of phosphate and potash is hurting yields. The paragraph also mentions that farmers are incentivized to properly fertilize their fields and cannot afford to continue mining the soil. The question posed by the analyst is about the Brazilian market, and the response mentions that the company is optimistic about application rates for the safrinha season, despite some commentary and data suggesting a decrease in planted acreage for corn. The company is confident in demand and shipments for the upcoming season.
The speaker discusses the potential impact of the second phase of Janssen on the potash industry, both in North America and globally. They mention that the first phase will start up at the end of 2026, but it will not reach full capacity until 2030.
In the next five years, BHP is not expected to contribute significantly to production. However, in the next 10 years, the market is expected to grow at a rate of 2% per year, which could potentially absorb BHP's production. It is uncertain how this will affect trade flow, but it is not seen as a major threat for a long time. In regards to phosphates, there is expected to be an increase of 2-3 million tonnes in shipments next year due to market recovery and increased production by BHP and their Moroccan competitor.
The company expects a small increase in exports from China, but overall demand will be met by other producers. The phosphate market is expected to be tight and may even tighten next year. The company has had various issues in the past that have impacted production, but they hope to return to historical levels of 2 million tons per quarter in Florida.
The paragraph discusses the reasons for below-average phosphate production in the last two years, including new rock reserves in Florida, operational and maintenance issues in Louisiana, and the lingering effects of the pandemic and hurricanes. The company is working to address these issues and invest in replacing aging assets to improve production in the future.
The speaker discusses Mosaic's production outlook for potash and mentions that in the third quarter, the company's sales exceeded its own production by 575,000 tonnes. They also mention that the company has been working to reduce its inventories. The speaker questions why Mosaic couldn't operate at higher volumes, citing logistics constraints as a challenge.
The speaker acknowledges the limitations of Canpotex's logistics capabilities and the efforts made to improve them. However, there is a limit to how fast the company can grow and respond to changes in the international market due to factors such as port strikes and reliance on Canadian rail companies.
The speaker, Joc O'Rourke, responds to a question about the outlook for potash pricing and contracts with China. He explains that while the pricing outlook is relatively muted, demand for potash is expected to remain strong, leaving room for both Russian and Canpotex exports. He also mentions that there is always some tension during contract negotiations, but ultimately a fair agreement is reached based on market conditions.
The relevance of seaborne trade has decreased due to rail imports and production at Qinghai Lake. The market will depend on global conditions and the readiness of other countries to export. Belarus and Russian producers typically have lower winter shipments due to weather conditions.
The speaker concludes the conference call by reiterating that the company is well-positioned in the market and expects strong demand for their products. The company's balance sheet is strong and they are investing in the business and returning capital to shareholders. The speaker, who is leaving the company, wishes the new team well for future earnings calls. The call is then officially concluded.
This summary was generated with AI and may contain some inaccuracies.