The paragraph is a transcript from JPMorgan Chase's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call, featuring Jeremy Barnum, the Chief Financial Officer. The firm reported net income of $12.9 billion, earnings per share (EPS) of $4.37, and revenue of $43.3 billion, with a return on tangible common equity (ROTCE) of 19%. Highlights include topping retail deposit share rankings for the fourth consecutive year, increased investment banking fees and market revenue, and record revenues and long-term flows in the Asset and Wealth Management (AWM) division. Overall, the firm's revenue increased by 6% year-on-year, and expenses went up by 4%, primarily due to compensation costs and employee growth, partly offset by reduced legal expenses.

The paragraph discusses the financial performance and activities for a particular quarter. Credit costs stood at $3.1 billion, influenced by net charge offs and net reserve builds mainly in consumer cards and wholesale. Balance sheet metrics show a stable CET1 ratio despite capital distributions, due to net income and higher lending and client activities. The company executed $6 billion in net common share repurchases, funded partly by selling Visa shares. The Consumer and Community Banking (CCB) sector reported a net income of $4 billion on revenue of $17.8 billion, a 3% decrease year-on-year, due to factors like deposit margin compression and lower deposits. Despite this, client investment assets rose 21% due to market performance. Home lending revenue increased by 3% due to higher net interest incomes, while card services and auto revenue grew by 11% driven by increased card net interest income and outstanding balances.

The paragraph discusses financial results for Auto and the Commercial and Investment Bank (CIB). Auto originations fell slightly to $10 billion, with expenses rising due to increased compensation and marketing costs. Credit costs were significantly affected by higher card charge-offs and increased reserves. CIB reported $5.7 billion net income on $17 billion revenue, with notable increases in IB fees and strong performance in advisory and underwriting driven by favorable market conditions. Payments revenue rose marginally due to fee growth and higher deposits. Market revenues grew by 8%, with significant gains in equities and Securities Services. Despite reduced legal expenses, CIB’s overall expenses were slightly down due to higher compensation and technology investments.

The paragraph discusses the financial performance of a banking and payments segment, reporting a decrease in average loans but an increase in average client deposits, driven by large corporate growth. Credit costs were $316 million due to higher net lending activity, partly offset by better macroeconomic conditions. The Asset and Wealth Management (AWM) division reported a net income of $1.4 billion with increased revenue from management fees and investment gains. Expenses rose due to higher compensation and distribution fees. For the quarter, AWM saw $72 billion in long-term net inflows and $34 billion in liquidity inflows, with assets under management and client assets increasing by 23%. Loans and deposits also increased quarter-on-quarter. The corporate segment reported a net income of $1.8 billion.

The paragraph discusses the financial performance and outlook for a company. Revenue in the current period was $3.1 billion, an increase of $1.5 billion year-on-year. Net Interest Income (NII) increased by $932 million to $2.9 billion due to balance sheet mix and securities reinvestment. Non-Interest Revenue (NIR) showed a net gain of $155 million, a significant improvement from the previous year's net loss of $425 million, primarily driven by reduced securities losses. Expenses decreased by $107 million to $589 million. The company projects 2024 NII ex-markets to be $91.5 billion, with total NII at $92.5 billion and adjusted expenses also around $91.5 billion. For Q4, $800 million of market NII is expected, with a card net charge-off rate of about 3.4% for 2024. Despite challenges in future quarters due to normalization, the company remains positive about continuing to deliver strong returns. Afterwards, Jim Mitchell from Seaport Global Securities asks about the significant drop in Q4 NII ex-markets, querying the main factors behind this decline, including deposit behavior and pricing following a 50 basis point cut.

The paragraph discusses the factors influencing the Net Interest Income (NII) trajectory for 2025, focusing on changes in the yield curve and deposit balances. Jeremy Barnum explains that the biggest driver of sequential declines is the yield curve, which hasn't changed significantly since a previous discussion. He notes that consumer deposit balances appear stable, with a decline in yield-seeking behavior and stable checking account balances indicating consumers are not overspending. Certificate of Deposit (CD) balances are expected to decrease with rate cuts. In the wholesale sector, some growth has been observed, supported by market expectations regarding the end of Q2. Barnum also mentions a recent sequential increase in NII for the current quarter.

In the paragraph, Jeremy Barnum discusses the company's financial outlook, noting a pattern of sequential increases and declines that should not be immediately interpreted as a market trough. He implies a trough may occur mid-next year, potentially leading to growth fueled by factors like card revolve growth. Formal guidance will be provided next quarter. Steven Chubak from Wolfe Research queries about rising expenses, noting discrepancies in projected figures. Barnum acknowledges the numbers, emphasizing the company's disciplined investment strategy, without specifying exactly where funds are being allocated.

The paragraph discusses financial projections, noting that a previously expected sequential decline in net interest income (NII) was underestimated, leading to ongoing discussions. Despite stabilizing inflation and efforts to offset costs through efficiencies, a base assumption of $90 billion, coupled with expected growth in fees and volume-related businesses, suggests expenses will likely exceed the consensus estimate of just under $94 billion. The company's strategy and investment priorities remain unchanged, focusing on executing long-term plans. Additionally, it mentions timing related to providing guidance, noting a shift away from past practices.

In the paragraph, Jamie Dimon discusses the company's expenses, which he prefers to view as investments, highlighting ongoing expansions in asset wealth management, international private banking, and Chase wealth management. He emphasizes that these initiatives are seen as opportunities that yield good returns, not burdensome costs. There is also a mention of AI investments that are expected to generate long-term benefits. In response to a question from Steven Chubak, Jeremy Barnum addresses the issue of redeploying cash reserves into securities, noting that while there has been some yield expansion, they are cautious about extending duration amid anticipated rate cuts.

In this discussion, Steve and Jeremy Barnum discuss the implications of extending duration on net interest income (NII). Extending duration doesn't alter expected NII if policy rates follow forward curves, but currently, it poses a challenge to short-term NII due to an inverted yield curve. Despite this, the company has slightly decreased its disclosed EAR from 2.8 to 2.1 for various reasons, including strategic decisions to extend duration. The goal is to balance NII volatility while safeguarding against extreme scenarios. The potential to expand exists, but the current position is satisfactory. Jamie Dimon emphasizes the unpredictability of the forward curve over time.

In the paragraph, Erika Najarian asks Jeremy Barnum about the outlook for JPMorgan's net interest income (NII) next year, noting that it is expected to decrease by 6% sequentially in the fourth quarter and by 4% year-over-year in 2025 according to consensus estimates. She also questions the impact of interest rate curve changes. Jeremy Barnum responds by acknowledging that the 2025 NII consensus is lower than earlier forecasts but still somewhat optimistic. He indicates that the bank anticipates an NII trough in the middle of the year, suggesting a pattern of sequential declines leading to that point, after which there may be some recovery.

The paragraph discusses predictions and uncertainties about the Net Interest Income (NII) and the economic impact of the yield curve. Jamie Dimon suggests that instead of guessing future NII, it would be better to provide clear numbers. He emphasizes that NII is influenced by many fluctuating factors like the yield curve and market decisions, and it's challenging to predict due to potential recessions or growth. Jeremy Barnum adds that their Estimated Annual Revenue (EAR) is projected to be around $2.1 billion, highlighting that their actual EAR during this rate cycle has been higher than their modeled expectations.

The paragraph discusses the financial strategies and concerns of a company, likely JPMorgan, in the context of managing its assets and capital. It mentions the challenges with retail deposit betas being lower than expected and the implications for the company's earnings at risk (EAR), highlighting the preference for a steeper yield curve. The discussion also touches upon the company's sensitivity to the Federal Reserve's rate cuts and how that influences their financial outlook. Erika Najarian then questions Jamie Dimon about the company's substantial capital generation and how they should deploy it, beyond standard practices like buybacks, organic growth, and dividend increases. Dimon's response is not detailed in the excerpt.

The speaker cautions against the idea of being dominant in a competitive market with various global players, such as fintech companies and direct lenders. They focus on serving clients by strategically deploying capital, like opening branches or supporting the innovation economy, while maintaining a reserve of excess capital. They believe asset prices are potentially inflated and prefer a cautious, patient approach to deploying capital, ensuring their shareholders are served well. While they acknowledge the potential to quickly increase net income, their priority is on client service and technological development. They emphasize patience and will communicate any changes in strategy.

In the paragraph, Jamie Dimon discusses the strategic and tactical approaches of his company, emphasizing the importance of an unbiased perspective in providing clients with the best products and services. He touches on market trends, noting that shareholders understand buying back stock at high prices isn't always ideal. Dimon highlights the value of cash during turbulent times and mentions Warren Buffett's strategy of stockpiling cash. Responding to Glenn Schorr's question about banks partnering with alternative managers and limited loan growth, Dimon reiterates the company's focus on serving all client lending needs beyond public markets.

The paragraph outlines a financial institution's strategy for offering clients both direct and syndicated lending options. They emphasize flexibility and client-focused service by allocating significant capital for direct loans while maintaining partnerships with various co-lenders for scalability and competitiveness. The institution aims to avoid exclusive ties with any single capital provider, ensuring they can offer tailored solutions without being constrained by third-party requirements. Their approach includes using their own risk measures, enabling them to underwrite large loans, like bridge loans, and later syndicate them as needed.

The paragraph discusses the challenges and strategies related to capital arbitrage in banking, highlighting differences between banks and insurance companies. Despite disadvantages, the speaker is confident in their ability to compete by focusing on client relationships and expanding lending platforms. A conversation follows about capital ratios and new Basel III regulations, with expectations that capital requirements may decrease based on recent speeches. Jamie Dimon and Jeremy Barnum indicate they have excess capital and are awaiting final regulation numbers, with emphasis on insights from Vice Chair Barr's speech.

The paragraph discusses the anticipation and importance of reviewing a new proposal regarding capital requirements, emphasizing that details are crucial. It warns against viewing reduced requirements from an initially high proposal as progress. The speaker stresses that existing requirements were already considered more than adequate, and the process should be thorough and balanced, considering factors like RWA, G-SIB, SCB, and CCAR. Jamie Dimon highlights the need for justified, well-thought-out numbers, considering economic impacts. Gerard Cassidy adds that with excess capital, the current financial position includes $1.5 trillion in cash and marketable securities versus $1.3 trillion in average loans.

In the paragraph, Jamie Dimon and Jeremy Barnum discuss their approach to using excess capital for loan growth at their company. Jamie Dimon emphasizes that they focus on doing good business, and loan growth is an outcome of that, rather than a goal in itself. Jeremy Barnum adds that the strategy involves deploying capital to grow the business organically, including making loans that bring in other types of revenue. They do not see excess capital as something to be used for a specific product but reserve it for future opportunities or challenges. Gerard Cassidy appreciates their transparency. Matt O'Connor asks about the impact of lower interest rates on loan growth, and Jeremy Barnum responds that there hasn't been much effect yet, with only minor exceptions.

The paragraph discusses the recent performance in Investment Banking, highlighting the impact of Debt Capital Markets (DCM) and the acceleration of some M&A transactions. It mentions that DCM's outperformance was driven by opportunistic deals, influenced by improved market conditions. While there was a slight increase in mortgage applications and multi-family lending, no immediate dramatic changes are expected due to heavily priced cuts and the inverted curve. Jamie Dimon notes favorable debt market conditions, but they may not persist. In consumer spending, there was year-over-year growth, but trends have normalized post-pandemic, making further discussion on that front less relevant.

The paragraph discusses consumer spending patterns, noting there was a recent surge in travel and entertainment (T&E) and discretionary spending that has since normalized. Despite this normalization, retail spending remains robust, which aligns with the strong labor market and the idea of a stable economic "new landing" scenario. However, this is just one possible outcome, and there are other potential scenarios. The conversation then shifts as Mike Mayo from Wells Fargo Securities asks Jamie Dimon about his frequent recent comments on government matters and whether he'd consider leaving his current role for government service. Dimon responds by saying it’s unlikely as he enjoys what he does and considers himself an American patriot.

In this conversation, Jamie Dimon emphasizes his commitment to his country over his company and highlights the importance of effective government policies in the global geopolitical context. Although he participates in different levels of policy-making, Dimon expresses little interest in serving in a governmental role if asked, preferring to continue his current work. He discusses his views on the stock market, suggesting it is overvalued, despite positive factors like AI and tech progress. Dimon implies a preference for a traditional valuation model for his company's stock, possibly contrasting with a more tech-focused valuation approach.

The paragraph features a conversation between Jamie Dimon and Ebrahim Poonawala regarding JPMorgan's outlook on financial trends. Dimon expresses caution about current high market valuations, emphasizing patience and the potential risks of buying stocks at inflated prices. Ebrahim Poonawala then shifts focus to the potential disruption in fixed income trading by firms like Jane Street. Jeremy Barnum responds by downplaying the disruption as a risk, instead describing it as a competitive reality. He highlights that JPMorgan operates in a highly competitive environment that includes not only other banks but also fintech and market-making firms, acknowledging these firms as both competitors and clients.

The paragraph discusses changes in the financial ecosystem, particularly how new competitors and market dynamics are impacting banks. While banks are adapting to compete in both traditional and new ways, regulatory constraints, especially capital liquidity regulations, pose challenges. The speaker argues that shifting financial activities outside banks to unregulated areas is a significant, untested change that requires careful consideration. Despite these challenges, the bank is preparing to compete effectively. Jamie Dimon adds that changes in private markets are still unfolding, highlighting the need for liquidity and market-making. In public markets, dealer inventories in corporate and treasury sectors are facing some limitations.

The paragraph discusses the role of a market maker, emphasizing the firm's commitment to serving clients in both credit and treasuries markets, even if it means deploying more capital at lower returns. It contrasts this with other firms trading for their own accounts. The conversation shifts to the risk of market liquidity shocks, particularly highlighted by a recent spike in the repo market, suggesting it may indicate reaching a low comfortable level of reserves. The response necessitates a holistic regulatory approach, acknowledging the shift in firms' liquidity needs and questioning the readiness to address such disruptions.

The paragraph discusses the possibility of winding down quantitative tightening (QT) and its implications for system-wide deposit growth. Jamie Dimon adds that while QT may need to be reconsidered, inflation and market volatility pose challenges. He argues that banks have significant cash reserves that cannot be deployed safely under current regulations, questioning whether it's sustainable for the Federal Reserve to intervene frequently in volatile markets, especially with potential inflationary environments. Dimon suggests revisiting regulatory capital requirements and anticipates that market fluctuations requiring Fed intervention will occur again.

The paragraph features a conversation between Betsy Graseck, Jeremy Barnum, and Jamie Dimon about the financial outlook related to Net Interest Income (NII). Betsy questions the impact of Quantitative Tightening (QT) on deposit growth and how it factors into future revenue projections for 2025, even without specific NII figures. Jeremy confirms that various factors, such as the yield curve and consumer deposit balances, influence NII, and mentions that deposit balances could shift from a neutral position to a positive one, possibly due to the end of QT. He also highlights the significance of the implied fourth-quarter run rate for Markets NII, suggesting it could be higher than current consensus estimates.

The paragraph discusses financial metrics and projections related to Net Interest Income (NII) and NII excluding markets. Jeremy Barnum explains that while market changes in NII are neutral overall, they affect income statement geographies. The consensus for NII ex-Markets is revised to $87 billion, which is closer to the correct value. Betsy Graseck inquires about capital use for portfolio acquisitions, to which Jamie Dimon expresses interest in asset acquisitions.

In the conversation, Jamie Dimon discusses the company's strategy regarding credit assets, emphasizing that while they are not actively looking to buy credit assets in the market, they are interested in creating them to help clients, particularly if it involves deploying capital effectively. He mentions a willingness to explore opportunities in areas like affordable housing. Regarding private label credit cards, Dimon expresses skepticism, noting past experiences and concerns, but remains open to reevaluating if circumstances change. Betsy Graseck and Saul Martinez pose questions, with Martinez focusing on deposit margin and volume dynamics in the Consumer and Community Banking (CCB) sector over the coming years.

The paragraph discusses the dynamics of deposit margins and volumes amidst changing interest rates. Deposit margins have declined slightly as balances have decreased, but they remain higher than past periods of similar rates. Jeremy Barnum addresses a question from Saul about how deposit margins and volumes might behave if rates fall to levels suggested by the forward curve. He avoids using a specific deposit margin figure due to its complexity, instead focusing on a broader firm-wide perspective, noting that the previously high deposit margins (the difference between policy rates and rates paid to consumers) were unsustainable and inevitably need adjustment. Additionally, retail deposits are expected to become a significant tailwind, as the firm anticipates gaining market share in this segment.

The paragraph discusses a bank's strategy regarding deposit pricing and retention. Despite market competition, the bank has not needed to reprice deposits to retain customers. Instead, it strategically increased its Certificate of Deposit (CD) mix, which has reached its peak. As policy rates decrease, so does the bank's margin, but it remains in a comfortable pricing position. The decrease in yield-seeking behavior reduces outflow from consumer deposits. The bank sees growth opportunities in increasing its market share in CCB deposits, leveraging brand strategy and expansion efforts, aiming for consistent annual share growth.

In the discussion, the participants talk about the normal deposit margin range in the banking business, noting that it typically falls between 2% and 2.5%, excluding periods of abnormal rates. Jeremy Barnum and Saul Martinez agree that current margins are slightly above this range but not excessively so. Jamie Dimon highlights the strong returns and market share growth in Banking & Wealth Management, mentioning that the company does not rely on current margins when planning branch expansions but rather considers potential normal margins over time. The conversation concludes with expressions of gratitude and the end of the conference call.

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