The paragraph is an introduction to the Wells Fargo Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. The operator introduces the call and John Campbell, the Director of Investor Relations, who thanks attendees and notes that CEO Charlie Scharf and CFO Mike Santomassimo will discuss the third quarter results and take questions. Earnings materials are available on the company's website. Campbell cautions that forward-looking statements may be made and directs listeners to the SEC filings for details. CEO Charlie Scharf then provides a brief overview of their solid third quarter results, highlighting a net income of $5.1 billion, diluted earnings per share of $1.42, ROE of 11.7%, and ROTCE of 13.9%, all improved from the second quarter.

The paragraph discusses the company's evolving earnings profile over the past five years, highlighting strategic investments and divestments leading to more diverse revenue sources and growth in fee-based income. It emphasizes strong credit discipline, operational efficiencies, and risk management efforts, including headcount reductions and cost management. The company has seen declines in average loans due to maintaining credit standards, but its credit card portfolio continues to grow. Economic uncertainties affect commercial loan demand, and overall deposits have slightly declined, although customer-facing business deposits have risen. In response to Fed rate cuts, deposit pricing is being adjusted. The paragraph notes resilience among customers and improved credit performance in wholesale businesses, despite ongoing challenges in the commercial real estate office market.

The paragraph outlines the positive performance of consumer businesses, with a strong labor market and wage growth supporting customers. Consumer charge-offs declined, and credit portfolios are stable, although some stress is noted in lower-income segments due to inflation. Spending on credit and debit cards increased, despite slower growth. Slowing inflation and easing interest rates are expected to benefit customers, especially lower-income ones. The company maintains a strong capital position with a CET1 ratio of 11.3%, increased stock repurchases, and a 14% rise in stock dividends. Shareholders have benefited from these capital management actions, with earnings per share increasing significantly since 2019. The company's strategic focus remains on risk and control work.

The paragraph outlines Wells Fargo's recent strategic initiatives and growth efforts. The company is fulfilling a formal agreement with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and is expanding its credit card offerings, including launching co-branded cards with Expedia and forming a financing partnership with Volkswagen Financial Services. This has helped increase credit card accounts and net checking accounts. Additionally, investments in consumer and business banking are yielding growth, with increases in debit card share and mobile users. Wells Fargo is also refurbishing branches and enhancing leadership by hiring key figures in investment banking and corporate banking, including appointing Bridget Engle as Head of Technology.

The paragraph outlines Wells Fargo's strategic priorities, including focusing on core businesses and selling non-core segments, such as the non-agency third-party servicing part of its commercial mortgage business. It highlights the strength of the U.S. economy with slowing inflation and a resilient labor market, which supports consumer spending, though there's a noted slowdown in demand for commercial lending. The company aims to balance growth and risk management. It expresses confidence in its strong franchise and management. The financial results for the third quarter show a net income of $5.1 billion, with strategic repositioning in investment portfolios leading to some losses.

The paragraph discusses the financial repositioning strategies involving a $16 billion securities sale and reinvestment into higher-yield securities, with an estimated earn-back period of over two years. The repositioning affected earnings per share, which would have been $1.52 without it. Compared to a year ago, third-quarter results were impacted by a $349 million tax benefit previously recognized. Net interest income declined by $233 million (2%) from the prior quarter, mainly due to increased pricing on sweep deposits and advisory brokerage accounts. The decline was the smallest since the third quarter of 2023, as deposit cost increases have slowed. Deposit costs rose 7 basis points in the third quarter; adjustments were made in response to a Federal Reserve rate cut, affecting pricing strategies for promotional deposits and sweep deposit accounts, while commercial deposit pricing is adapting quickly in line with Federal Reserve rate movements. The company continues to monitor market conditions to adjust pricing and deposit strategies accordingly.

The paragraph provides an overview of financial metrics regarding loans, deposits, non-interest income, and expenses. Average loans decreased compared to the previous quarter and the previous year, with growth in credit card loans unable to offset declines in other areas. Average deposits increased by $1.4 billion year-over-year but fell by $4.8 billion from the second quarter, due to a significant reduction in higher-cost corporate treasury deposits, while customer deposits grew. This shift in deposit composition positively impacts net interest income. Non-interest income rose by 12% from the previous year, driven by investments and favorable market conditions, with notable growth in fee-generating activities and improved venture capital investment results. Non-interest expenses decreased from both the previous quarter and year, aided by efficiency initiatives, despite higher compensation in Wealth and Investment Management and increased technology expenses.

The paragraph discusses the decline in operating losses and improvements in credit quality from the previous quarter and year. Net loan charge-offs decreased, particularly in commercial real estate and industrial portfolios, although challenges remain in the commercial real estate office sector. Consumer loan charge-offs also fell, driven by lower credit card losses. Non-performing assets were reduced, mainly due to decreased commercial real estate non-accrual loans. The allowance for credit losses saw a slight overall decrease, with a notable increase for credit card loans due to higher balances. Credit loss allowance coverage has remained stable across asset classes. The capital position remains strong, with a CET1 ratio of 11.3%, exceeding the regulatory minimum and buffers.

In the third quarter, there was an improvement in the CET1 ratio due to favorable changes in interest rates and mortgage-backed security spreads, alongside significant share repurchases totaling $3.5 billion, leading to a 7% reduction in diluted average shares. Consumer Banking and Lending saw mixed results, with declines in revenue for Consumer Small and Business Banking, Credit Card, Auto, and Personal Lending largely due to lower balances and spread compression. However, Home Lending revenue increased slightly due to higher mortgage banking fees. Retail mortgage originations dropped 14% from the previous year but were up 4% from the previous quarter, reflecting efforts to streamline the Home Lending business and reduce headcount by 46%. The Auto portfolio also shrank, with loan balances decreasing 14% due to prior credit tightening measures.

In the third quarter, origination volume remained stable year-over-year and increased by 11% from the second quarter. Debit card spending rose by $2.3 billion, a 2% increase from the previous year, while credit card spending grew by 10%, except in the fuel category. Payment rates were slightly lower than last year but remained above pre-pandemic levels. In Commercial Banking, Middle Market Banking revenue fell by 1% due to higher deposit costs, despite growth in treasury management fees. Asset-based lending and leasing revenue also dropped by 4%, but equity investments provided some offset. Average loan balances declined by 1% as loan demand weakened due to economic uncertainty and high borrowing costs. In Corporate Investment Banking, revenue decreased by 5% due to higher deposit costs and lower loan balances. Commercial real estate revenue was down 1%, offset by higher capital markets revenue. Markets revenue increased by 6%, thanks to strong performance in rates, structured products, and municipals, despite declines in equities. Average loans fell by 6%, influenced by a decrease in the commercial real estate portfolio and banking loan balances.

The paragraph discusses Wealth and Investment Management (WIM) revenue growth, which increased by 5% due to higher asset-based fees and brokerage activities, albeit partially offset by lower net interest income due to increased pricing on sweep deposits. It notes that WIM advisory assets are priced quarterly, with fourth quarter results reflecting market valuations as of October 1. Corporate results showed a revenue decline year-over-year due to net losses on debt securities, offset by better venture capital outcomes. The 2024 outlook for net interest income suggests a roughly stable fourth quarter compared to the third, despite a projected 9% decline for the full year compared to 2023. Non-interest expenses for 2024 are expected to be around $54 billion, with potential impacts from outstanding litigation and other matters. The company reported a 12% increase in non-interest income in the third quarter, reflecting transformative progress.

The paragraph discusses a company's financial performance, highlighting double-digit growth despite a $447 million loss from repositioning its investment securities portfolio. While non-interest income growth was offset by a decline in net interest income, the company's investments have led to improved fee income and revenue diversification. The company has also reduced expenses and headcount for 17 consecutive quarters, maintained credit discipline, and returned over $23 billion to shareholders through stock dividends and buybacks. The company expresses optimism about future opportunities for improvement and opens the floor for questions. During the Q&A, Scott Siefers from Piper Sandler asks about net interest income (NII), to which Mike Santomassimo responds, noting that deposit levels and their mix are key factors influencing NII movements.

The paragraph discusses the behavior of noninterest-bearing and interest-bearing deposits, noting a stable trend despite a product switch conversion affecting them. Deposit pricing adjustments have been made on both consumer and commercial sides as interest rates fluctuate. Interest-sensitive deposits align with expectations, but no loan growth has been seen, which was anticipated. The paragraph also mentions factors like day counts that can affect quarterly outcomes. Additionally, it touches on the cautious stance the company has maintained regarding loan demand and notes potential clarity on borrowing costs as the election approaches.

The paragraph features a discussion involving Mike Santomassimo and Scott Siefers about the current economic outlook. Santomassimo notes that clients are cautious about borrowing despite a 50 basis point reduction, stating that more significant changes in rates are needed to influence borrowing decisions. He mentions uncertainties around the election and general economic conditions, asserting that confidence in a soft landing, post-election clarity, and slightly lower rates could encourage clients to invest in inventories or capital expenditures. Additionally, Ebrahim Poonawala from Bank of America begins a conversation about expenses with Charlie Scharf, highlighting flat year-over-year personnel expenses at 8.6% and non-compensation expenses at 4.2%.

The paragraph features a discussion among Charlie Scharf, Mike Santomassimo, and Ebrahim Poonawala regarding the company's financial strategy and efficiency. Scharf emphasizes that while the company continues to find meaningful efficiencies, it is also focused on investing in risk, regulatory areas, and future growth. Santomassimo highlights that efficiency savings are evident in reduced personnel expenses and that these savings offset some revenue-related expenses, particularly in wealth and investment management. They both emphasize a balanced approach to efficiency and investment and note that they will share specifics for 2025 once their internal planning is complete.

The paragraph is a segment of a dialogue from a financial discussion, where Mike Santomassimo explains why their Net Interest Income (NII) hasn't decreased despite a 50 basis points rate cut. He attributes this to various factors, such as their unique mix of deposits, pricing actions, asset repricing, and bond book restructuring. They have been repositioning their portfolio and will continue to analyze opportunities. Charlie Scharf adds that rate movements should be considered across different points of the curve, with a steeper curve generally being beneficial. The dialogue shifts to a new question from Erika Najarian of UBS, asking about the next steps after submitting a third-party review to the Federal Reserve concerning the asset cap work stream.

In the paragraph, Charlie Scharf explains the process of managing consent orders, including developing plans, receiving feedback from regulators, and undergoing reviews. Erika Najarian inquires about the company's recent $3.5 billion share buyback and whether this pace will continue. Mike Santomassimo responds that while they don't provide specifics on quarter-to-quarter pacing, the company has excess capital and plans to continue evaluating opportunities to support clients and shareholders. They are pleased with the $15.5 billion buyback year-to-date and emphasize returning excess capital to shareholders.

In the paragraph, Betsy Graseck from Morgan Stanley asks about potential asset growth opportunities for the company if the asset cap were to be removed. Charlie Scharf responds by indicating that although the asset cap hasn't restricted the company significantly, they have been cautious with wholesale deposits and markets business financing as these areas are impacted by the asset cap. Once the cap is removed, they anticipate growth in these areas and expect normal growth opportunities across the company, though not profoundly significant changes immediately.

The paragraph features a discussion between Betsy Graseck and Charlie Scharf about expenses related to a consent order. Scharf emphasizes that they are not considering reducing these investments despite the possibility of future efficiency improvements. Their focus is on embedding the changes into the company's culture rather than seeking immediate efficiencies. In a subsequent conversation with Matt O'Connor, Scharf addresses questions about anti-money laundering and KYC issues noted in a 10-Q report. He states their commitment to resolving such issues and indicates they will spend whatever is necessary to improve control-related work, following a formal agreement with the OCC.

The paragraph discusses an ongoing discussion about a $54 billion expense base and the related spending required by a consent order. Charlie Scharf comments that while they have been spending significantly on the required work per the order, they only speak for themselves and not the broader industry. Matt O'Connor from Raymond James asks if asset caps can be lifted independently of a consent order's removal. Scharf suggests referring to the 2018 Fed consent order for specifics, emphasizing that it outlines what the Board needs to achieve for the Fed's approval.

The paragraph discusses the company's efforts to enhance operational risk and compliance to lift an asset cap and consent order effectively and sustainably, which is being monitored by the Federal Reserve. The company is confident in its progress. Additionally, it addresses trading gains, noting that market volatility and seasonal factors influence these gains. The company focuses on improving capabilities, technology, and e-trading to enhance performance, maintaining consistent results over the past seven quarters. The conversation also includes a transition to questions from John Pancari of Evercore.

The paragraph discusses financial strategies and expectations for a company. It begins with John Pancari asking about the impact of securities repositioning on net interest income (NII) for the third and fourth quarters. Mike Santomassimo responds that the repositioning, involving about $16 billion and yielding a 130 basis point improvement, had a minimal impact in the third quarter but is fully reflected in the run rate for the fourth quarter. In response to questions about fee income, particularly in trading, wealth management, and card services, Charlie Scharf emphasizes the complexity of predicting these figures due to multiple underlying drivers, advising a detailed, individual approach to modeling based on specific components. Mike Santomassimo adds that investment management income is influenced by market levels, noting that two-thirds come from equities and the remainder from fixed income.

The paragraph is a discussion between financial analysts and executives about the state of various business sectors and commercial real estate. It begins with Mike addressing how growth in the debit and credit card business is tied to the broader economy and the company's success, and he notes the strategic efforts to increase market share in investment banking. Gerard Cassidy then asks about the commercial real estate office portfolio, specifically its credit quality. Charlie Scharf responds, indicating that while there may be some perception of stabilization, the reality is that conditions haven't improved significantly and are impacting more properties. There is an observed revaluation due to supply and demand dynamics, and overall, there haven't been material changes from their expectations in the commercial real estate market.

The paragraph discusses the ongoing challenges in the real estate market, particularly with older office buildings, and how it aligns with the bank's expectations. Mike Santomassimo notes that newer and renovated buildings in good locations are performing well, while older ones face issues, reflecting a trend observed across the U.S. The situation is expected to take a long time to resolve, and the bank feels confident in its allowance for coverage ratio. Gerard Cassidy then shifts the discussion to the impact of recent Federal Reserve rate cuts on deposit behavior, inquiring about any changes in consumer and corporate actions. Santomassimo indicates that deposit behavior remains largely unchanged in the past three weeks.

The paragraph discusses the stability of deposits in a company's businesses over the past year, with a reduced migration to higher-yield alternatives. The company emphasizes a consistent approach to loan underwriting and decision-making on deposit products, tailored to individual clients and relationships. This strategy has been effective, and they intend to continue with it. The conversation ends with Gerard Cassidy expressing appreciation, and Mike Santomassimo thanking participants for joining the conference call.

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