$KMI Q3 2024 AI-Generated Earnings Call Transcript Summary
The Quarterly Earnings Conference Call, hosted by Rich Kinder, Executive Chairman of Kinder Morgan, discussed the company's positive outlook on future demand for natural gas. This demand is driven by factors like LNG exports, exports to Mexico, and increased electric generation needs, particularly due to AI and data centers. The company believes that this growth presents substantial and positive opportunities for the expansion of natural gas infrastructure, and Kinder Morgan aims to be a significant contributor to this development. The call also included reminders about forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures.
In the article, the company announced its $3 billion South System Expansion 4 Project aimed at increasing natural gas capacity in the Southeastern US. They also unveiled an expansion of the GCX system in Texas to improve gas transport from the Permian Basin. The company anticipates further project announcements to expand its network, boosting EPS, EBITDA, and DCF sustainably. Despite unchanged earnings per share in Q3, EBITDA grew by 2% from last year, and they project a 5% EBITDA growth and 9% EPS growth for the year. The company added $450 million to its project backlog, including the GCX expansion, storage expansion on NGPL, and a new power plant lateral. They highlight growth opportunities in natural gas exports and industrial demand.
The paragraph discusses the increasing demand for natural gas in the Southern United States, driven by factors like population migration, renewable energy needs, and industrial growth due to the CHIPS Act and onshoring efforts. This rise in demand is leading to new projects, such as natural gas peaker plants and LNG facilities, which often necessitate further infrastructure developments like expanded pipelines for diverse and secure supply. Although not all projects will proceed and larger projects may take longer, the overall opportunity set in the natural gas market is expanding, with focused conversations on potential projects worth between $1.5 billion and $2 billion.
The paragraph discusses recent developments in a midstream energy company's natural gas and product pipeline operations. Two major projects totaling $3.6 billion have been approved, and transport and gathering volumes in the natural gas business have generally increased compared to 2023. However, gathering volumes are down 5% sequentially, expected to average 8% below the 2024 plan but still above 2023 levels. This is seen as temporary due to anticipated LNG demand in late 2025. Meanwhile, in the Products Pipeline segment, refined product volumes increased by 1%, while crude and condensate volumes decreased by 4% compared to the previous year. A successful open season for the SFPP pipeline will add 2,400 barrels per day capacity on the Eastline system, expected to be operational by the third quarter of 2025.
In the Terminals business segment, the company reports a high liquids lease capacity of 95% and anticipates strong rates and high utilization at key hubs. The Jones Act tankers are extensively leased through 2025, with expectations for higher charter rates upon renewal. The CO2 segment saw decreased oil and NGL volumes but increased CO2 volumes this quarter. Projects worth $145 million were approved to boost oil production, expected to exceed 5,000 barrels per day. Financially, the company declared a dividend increase to $0.2875 per share. Despite a revenue decline to $3.7 billion, a decrease in cost of sales led to a 7% gross margin increase, with net income and EPS both rising by 17% compared to the previous year.
The company experienced year-over-year growth in its natural gas and terminals businesses due to contributions from acquired South Texas midstream assets and increased natural gas transportation and storage services. However, the Products segment declined due to lower commodity prices affecting inventory valuations. Distributable cash flow per share remained flat, and sustaining capital increased as anticipated. Year-to-date performance shows a 9% increase in EPS and a 5% rise in adjusted EPS compared to the previous year. The company expects adjusted EBITDA and EPS for the full year to be higher than in 2023, despite trending below budget. The third quarter ended with $31.7 billion in net debt, reflecting a $150 million decrease since the beginning of the year, achieved through $4.2 billion in cash flow and strategic capital expenditures. The floor is now open for questions.
In this segment, John Mackay from Goldman Sachs inquires about the growth potential and projects not yet part of the backlog, previously referred to as a "shadow backlog." Kim Dang explains that although there isn't technically a shadow backlog, the opportunity set has increased since last year. Smaller projects, involving less risk and built from existing networks, offer consistent returns, while larger opportunities are also present. In the power sector, opportunities span multiple states, including Arizona, Arkansas, Texas, and others. Growth in the industrial sector is driven by onshoring, the CHIPS Act, and cheap commodities in the U.S., with activities like battery, chip, and auto plants in different states. Export and nearshoring, particularly to Mexico, are influenced by power plants and export LNG.
The paragraph discusses growth and opportunities in the energy sector, focusing on carbon capture and storage (CCS) and various expansion projects. It highlights the increase in the company's project backlog from $3.8 billion last year to $5.1 billion, indicating significant growth. The company has also increased its annual expansion capital expenditures from $1-2 billion to $2 billion. Two key projects, Mississippi Crossing and Trident, are mentioned as ongoing efforts to transport natural gas from West to East, specifically targeting Southeast markets and the LNG corridor in Port Arthur. These projects are aimed at meeting the demand for natural gas and are in competitive development stages. The paragraph ends with additional data supporting the increase in the project backlog.
In the paragraph, John Mackay asks about factors influencing business trends aside from commodity softness as they prepare for 2025 guidance. Kim Dang responds by highlighting the impact of commodity prices on natural gas gathering volumes, noting a weakness compared to the budget. However, this is balanced by strong performance in transmission assets, including transport contracts and storage. Looking towards 2025, Dang mentions that gathering and processing volumes are uncertain but anticipates improvements with the introduction of new export LNG volumes and potentially favorable winter conditions. Additionally, other segments like products and terminals are expected to benefit from rate escalators, the Jones Act, and favorable interest rates.
In the paragraph, Michael Blum from Wells Fargo inquires about future capital expenditures (CapEx) related to gas demand and projects. Kim Dang responds that while there is potential for CapEx to increase, the current guidance is roughly $2 billion annually, which could exceed that depending on project timings. She emphasizes that the company reviews CapEx regularly, has the cash flow to support about $2.5 billion annually, and has balance sheet capacity to fund projects and reduce leverage if needed. Overall, the company is in a good position to fund projects if costs rise.
The paragraph is part of a Q&A session with Kim Dang and Sital Mody addressing project returns and the Mississippi crossing project. Kim Dang mentions that the returns on their projects are consistent with historical averages and the South System 4 Expansion is not substantially different. In response to Theresa Chen's query about the Mississippi crossing project's commercial drivers, Sital Mody explains that the need for incremental supply due to increased LNG activities on the Gulf Coast is a factor. It reflects both a diversification of supply sources and access to physical resources needed for future growth.
Kim Dang discusses the strategic benefits of keeping their natural gas and products pipeline businesses together, despite the success of a competitor in separating their liquids business. She highlights the potential dissynergies and lack of incentive to separate the businesses, given the current market conditions and transaction costs. She emphasizes that any decision would depend on strong market views and the potential trading performance of the separated entities. Theresa Chen then concludes the discussion, and the next question is directed to Zack Van Everen about the Cumberland project.
In the paragraph, Kim Dang discusses challenges related to permits for a natural gas project that aims to convert a coal power plant to natural gas, which is expected to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Despite past successes in overcoming legal challenges from anti-fossil fuel groups against various permits, the project is currently stalled due to a stay by the Sixth Circuit. Dang expresses confidence that the involved agencies, the Army Corps and TDEC, will defend the permits. Separately, Zack Van Everen inquires about the timeline for the Gulf Coast Express expansion, comparing it to the previous Permian Highway project. Sital Mody explains that the expansion is expected to take about 22 months, aiming for a mid-2026 completion, slightly longer than the previous project due to increased demand for components.
In response to a question from Jean Ann Salisbury about potential demand risks in the Agua Dulce area due to increased gas volumes and potential LNG project delays in 2026, Sital Mody acknowledges possible pricing exposure if LNG demand centers are delayed. However, the company has downstream optionality and storage assets that can mitigate some risks. Rich Kinder and Kim Dang emphasize having long-term contracts with shippers, which provide some stability. Kim Dang adds that there are opportunities to profit from Texas Intrastate business by buying cheap gas and possibly expanding pipeline systems from Agua Dulce to Katy, depending on the situation's duration.
In the paragraph, Kim Dang discusses the market rate storage and the outlook for the company's storage contracts. She indicates that 25% of their storage is at market-based rates, with some contracts already updated and others pending. The storage market remains strong with improving rates. A recent three-year deal represented a high point in their storage endeavors, demonstrating the market's ongoing strength. These contracts typically renew in thirds over three years. In response to Neal Dingmann's question about backlog, Kim mentions that while they haven't projected their backlog forward, it increased from $3.8 billion last year, suggesting that although projects will be completed, there is potential for adding significant new projects.
The paragraph discusses a conversation during an earnings call where Neal Dingmann inquires about the CO2 portfolio and capital expenditure. Kim Dang confirms that the company's board approved $150 million in new CO2 projects, projecting an additional 5,000 barrels per day from these efforts. Anthony Ashley mentions that the company spends around $200 million annually on expansion, suggesting no significant increase in the near future. Jeremy Tonet from JPMorgan then shifts the discussion to Kinder's operating leverage, asking about growth potential on the gathering and pipeline sides.
The paragraph features a discussion about the potential impacts of increased gas and power demand on Kinder Morgan Inc. (KMI). Kim Dang notes that while there is sufficient pipeline capacity, especially in the Eagle Ford and Haynesville areas, there might be a need for additional infrastructure like processing facilities or laterals. Transmission pipelines are running at high utilization, with opportunities for growth as contracts renew and through providing services during volatility events. Jeremy Tonet inquires about the possibility of KMI supplying gas directly to power plants, potentially even providing power. Kim Dang confirms that KMI can provide gas to power plants, whether the plants are connected to the transmission grid or not.
The paragraph discusses potential funding strategies for growth capital expenditures (CapEx) by a company. They mention considering placing a power plant near a storage facility for reliability benefits but have no concrete plans yet. Kim Dang, in response to Keith Stanley's questions, explains the company's financial framework, stating they can fund up to $2.5 billion per year in growth CapEx from cash flow. She also notes that they could use debt to fund additional CapEx, as long as it aligns with their debt-to-EBITDA ratio targets. If needed, they could partner with private equity for large projects with good returns. Rich Kinder adds that the company can maintain a strong balance sheet while accommodating CapEx needs.
In the paragraph, Kim Dang discusses the impact of the Chevron doctrine on court reviews of infrastructure projects. Dang clarifies that the Chevron doctrine did not influence their recent decision on the Cumberland project and notes that legal challenges have been a consistent part of their operations, as seen in past projects like PHP. The company plans to proactively address potential court challenges by ensuring permits are robust and defensible, integrating this approach into their capital deployment and project strategies as they have done over the past decade. Keith Stanley and Rich Kinder thank participants and close the conversation.
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