The paragraph introduces the A. O. Smith Corporation's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Helen Gurholt, the Vice President of Investor Relations and Financial Planning and Analysis, announces her participation along with Kevin Wheeler, Chairman and CEO, and Chuck Lauber, CFO. The call aims to offer transparency through non-GAAP measures, explaining financial metrics like free cash flow and adjusted earnings. It includes a cautionary note about forward-looking statements. The format includes a presentation and a subsequent Q&A session, with instructions for the latter. The presentation slides are available online. Kevin Wheeler then begins the prepared remarks.

In the third quarter, the company experienced a decline in sales and earnings due to weaker consumer demand in China and reduced water heater demand in North America. China saw a 17% drop in third party sales, and North American water heater sales decreased by 4%. However, there was double-digit growth in North America's boiler and water treatment sectors and in India. Despite the challenges, the company increased its dividend by 6%, marking 32 consecutive years of dividend growth. There is optimism about future impacts from government stimulus programs in China and the company's new tankless product manufactured in China, which received positive feedback.

The company acknowledges that current sales are below expectations but remains optimistic about the long-term outlook, planning to launch two new models in early 2025. North America boiler sales grew by 15% and water treatment sales increased by 16% year-over-year. Expansion projects began in 2024, including a new facility in Juárez for manufacturing gas tankless water heaters, expected to start production in early 2025. Additional heat pump capacity was added at the same site, and a new commercial product development center in Tennessee is to be completed by mid-2025. The center will enhance product development and testing. The call is then turned over to Chuck Lauber for more details on the third quarter performance.

In the third quarter, North America segment sales declined by 1% to $703 million due to lower residential and commercial water heating volumes, despite higher boiler and water treatment sales and favorable pricing. Segment earnings fell 4% to $163 million, with margin decreasing by 80 basis points to 23.1%. The rest of the world segment experienced a 10% sales decline to $210 million, largely due to reduced core water heater and treatment product sales in China, although India showed a 12% sales increase in local currency. Segment earnings dropped to $14 million with a margin of 6.5%, attributed to lower sales, even as cost-saving projects in China helped reduce material costs. The company's free cash flow was $283 million for the first nine months of 2024, down due to higher inventory and incentive payments, offset by lower receivables. Capital expenditures rose by $35 million for expansion projects. By the end of September, the cash balance was $256 million, net cash was $136 billion, and the leverage ratio was 5.9%.

The company is focused on organic growth, innovation, and product development while returning capital to shareholders. It plans to acquire Pureit from Unilever for $120 million to enhance its water treatment portfolio in South Asia, particularly India, with the acquisition expected to close by the end of 2024. The board approved a 6% increase in the quarterly dividend to $0.34 per share, and approximately 2.9 million shares were repurchased for $237 million in the first nine months of 2024. The 2024 EPS outlook is $3.70 to $3.85 per share, assuming stable material costs and supply chain conditions. Capital expenditures are projected at $105 million to $115 million, with operating cash flow expected to be $525 million and free cash flow about $415 million, reduced due to lower earnings outlook and other factors. Corporate expenses are estimated at $70 million, with a tax rate of 24%, and $300 million worth of share repurchases expected, resulting in 147 million outstanding diluted shares by year-end 2024.

In the call, Kevin Wheeler discusses the company's outlook for 2024, projecting flat sales compared to 2023. He notes ongoing weakness in the Chinese market despite government stimulus, leading to a lowered sales guidance with a decrease of 6-8% in local currency and a 1% negative currency translation impact. In North America, residential water heater orders have been weaker than expected, affecting inventory levels and market share projections, which are now expected to remain similar to last year. The U.S. residential and commercial water heater industry volumes are anticipated to be flat, with a noted shift towards more electric unit shipments in the commercial category, where the company is satisfied with its market share.

The paragraph discusses the challenges and strategies in the company's water heater and boiler businesses. It highlights the higher price of gas water heaters compared to electric ones and includes the impact of recent price increases for water heaters and heat pumps in North America in the company's outlook. Despite anticipating stable proactive replacement levels, there is concern about potential softening in market demand. The company has adjusted its boiler sales growth guidance to a lower range but remains satisfied with commercial boiler sales, while residential order rates are weak. The sales growth outlook for North America water treatment remains unchanged at 8% to 10%. With revised assumptions for 2024, the expected margin for North America is 24.5%, and 8% for the rest of the world. The company is pleased with sales growth in North America but notes challenges in China and North America water heater markets in Q3. It anticipates improvement in North American water heater volumes despite weak demand in China, expecting better Q4 sales due to seasonal shopping holidays. The company is optimistic about its high-efficiency commercial boiler products but observes a slight decline in coating activity.

The paragraph, part of a conference call transcript, discusses A.O. Smith's business operations and strategies. It highlights their efforts in adapting to the current environment in China and optimizing operations due to lower volumes. The company mentions efficient adjustments in their North American manufacturing facilities while maintaining improved lead times. A.O. Smith, with a 150-year history, notes that replacement demand accounts for 80-85% of U.S. water heater and boiler volumes, providing stability. This stable demand, along with a strong balance sheet, enables the company to invest long-term and pursue acquisitions. They emphasize their commitment to customer service and maintaining their leadership in heating and treating water. Following the prepared remarks, a Q&A session begins with Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs, who asks about the North American residential water heater segment, noting industry volumes and price trends. Kevin Wheeler responds by addressing the context of the question.

In the paragraph, the company discusses the impacts of a price increase in the second quarter, which led to longer lead times and temporarily increased orders due to altered ERP systems in customer operations. As the company worked through its backlog and lead times normalized, distributors reduced inventory levels. The company views the fluctuations as a normal part of market volatility rather than a significant concern. They adjusted their market outlook from expecting growth to viewing a flat performance as the potential ceiling, indicating some softness in the market that they are addressing.

The paragraph details a discussion between Jeff Hammond from KeyBank Capital Markets and Kevin Wheeler, likely an executive from A.O. Smith. Jeff Hammond inquires about the persistence of a price increase in March amidst declining steel prices, and Kevin Wheeler responds by stating that the price increase was implemented as planned and that the market remains competitive but manageable according to their business strategy. Wheeler also discusses the long-term strategic consideration of A.O. Smith's business in China, acknowledging its inconsistent performance and lower returns compared to North America, but reiterates the importance of participating in key markets like the U.S. for the long term.

The article highlights China's position as the second-largest economy with potential to become the largest, offering significant growth opportunities due to urbanization and a growing middle class. Despite current economic challenges in China, A. O. Smith remains optimistic about long-term prospects in China, India, and other key markets. Matt Summerville from D.A. Davidson Co. inquires about the outlook for China's business in 2025, given recent stimulus measures. Kevin Wheeler acknowledges the positive potential of these measures but notes it is too early to assess their full impact, as the size of the stimulus is still unknown.

The paragraph discusses a company's perspective on the market and their business outlook. They mention that despite challenges in recent years, especially post-COVID, they still see potential growth and are optimistic about their brand and business position. They are preparing for changes in the economic environment influenced by stimulus programs. Matt Summerville questions a shift in their North American commercial business from gas to electric. Kevin Wheeler responds that they are confident in their market share for both and explains that while they benefited from a focus on gas earlier, they are now facing challenges but are well-positioned in both sectors. Saree Boroditsky's question, at the end, asks about the impact of switching to a tankless water heater factory on global and North American segments, though the paragraph does not provide Kevin Wheeler's response to that question.

The paragraph discusses anticipated headwinds and benefits related to global sales and manufacturing transitions for the company, with a focus on impacts into 2025. Kevin Wheeler mentions a specific headwind of 50 basis points for the full year due to delays in launching tankless products, which will mostly affect the fourth quarter and extend into 2025. Additionally, the transition of manufacturing from China to Juárez is expected to continue being a headwind. In North America, residential water heater shipments have seen a growth, but Kevin Wheeler cautions that this increase may not be sustained, predicting a softening in the market.

The paragraph discusses expectations for the industry and company performance through 2024. The speaker anticipates a flat to slightly down trend by the end of 2024, attributing this to timing in orders. They express confidence in the industry's performance being relatively stable. In response to a question, Kevin Wheeler explains that while they lack perfect sellout data, communication with customers indicates varied performance across markets, with some distributors experiencing slight increases or decreases but generally leaning towards stability. Feedback suggests a modest slowdown, but overall, the market remains steady for both residential and commercial businesses.

The paragraph presents a discussion between Mike Halloran, Kevin Wheeler, and David MacGregor about their proactive replacement survey, steel cost trends, and North American water heater market conditions. Initially, they note that proactive replacement remains strong and stable. Kevin Wheeler discusses favorable steel cost movements of about 15% from Q3 to Q4 but indicates that overall material costs are flat due to unfavorable costs for other materials. Despite this, they feel stable going into Q4 regarding price costs. David MacGregor then questions whether the observed slowing in North American water heater demand is due to replacement demand slowing or other factors like impacts from builder activity, particularly in multifamily projects.

The paragraph discusses factors affecting North American earnings in the second half and whether these will extend into 2025. Kevin Wheeler notes that replacements remain stable, referring to a four-year trend of proactive replacements at higher levels. The quarter's lower order rates are attributed to an inventory correction due to reduced lead times and potentially slower demand. The multifamily sector is slightly down, but not significantly impacting Q4. Chuck Lauber adds that while residential order rates decreased in July and August, they increased in September and October, providing confidence linked to pre-buying ahead of Q4. The operator then opens the floor for Scott Graham from Seaport Research Partners, who wishes to discuss China's performance, noting a drastic shift in the third quarter compared to earlier positive organic growth.

In paragraph 17, Kevin Wheeler discusses the decline in Chinese sales during the third quarter compared to the first half, attributing it to decreased consumer confidence due to worsening property market conditions and employment challenges in China. About 70% of Chinese consumer wealth is tied to property, and the decline in this sector has led to reduced spending. The situation worsened in Q3, causing consumers to cut back on non-essential purchases. Chuck Lauber adds that the lack of year-over-year growth in kitchen products, which were launched the previous year in Q3, also contributed to the sales decline.

The paragraph features a discussion about the introduction of a new premium condensed premix product line by Kevin Wheeler's company. Despite some initial challenges, such as market conditions and potential destocking impacts in Q3, Wheeler emphasizes a long-term strategy, aiming to capture market share over time. He highlights benefits like reduced lead times for customers in North America and anticipates substantial sales growth by 2026. Wheeler suggests patience, as the full product line is expected to positively impact sales when fully launched in 2025.

In the paragraph, Nathan Jones asks about the lead times for their products, noting they had returned to normal post-COVID. Kevin Wheeler explains that lead times extended due to a price increase in Q1 and Q2, causing customers to maximize purchases, particularly affecting North America water heating lead times, which nearly doubled temporarily. However, lead times are now back to normal for most business areas. Nathan also inquires about the impact of Chinese government stimulus on consumer spending, seeking insights based on previous experiences, particularly in relation to how long such effects take to reach consumers.

Kevin Wheeler and Chuck Lauber discuss the economic situation in China, highlighting the challenges and changes in the current environment compared to past conditions. Wheeler notes that the market is more mature now and that the property sector faces new issues, making it difficult to predict how and when China will recover. However, he sees potential in China's larger stimulus package efforts. Lauber adds that past appliance programs have had limited success, but the recent trade-in program seems more promising at its early stages. They emphasize adapting business strategies to the present conditions to benefit from future improvements in China's economy.

The paragraph discusses the challenges faced by a company in the Chinese water heater market. Damian Karas asks about trends in the premium and mid-tier segments, and Kevin Wheeler responds that the overall market is down by about 17% in local currency, primarily due to volume pressures. Wheeler mentions that they maintained their premium market position despite the decline, particularly because they didn't engage heavily in promotional programs affecting the upper mid-price market. Chuck Lauber adds that although they were selective with promotions, focusing on the long-term value of the A.O. Smith brand has helped maintain its strength in a difficult market environment.

The paragraph is from an earnings call discussion where David McGregor from Longbow Research inquires about the current unit volumes of premium water heaters in China compared to pre-COVID levels. Kevin Wheeler explains that before the downturn, over 90% of sales were in the premium category, especially for water heaters. Currently, more than 60% of water heater sales are premium, while water treatment lags at 30%-40%. Bryan Blair from Oppenheimer then asks about cost optimization strategies in China and North America in response to demand changes, questioning if there are ongoing structural cost actions and their potential savings or if the actions are temporary.

In the paragraph, Kevin Wheeler discusses the company's strategies in North America and China. In North America, they have adjusted production and headcount to address volume changes, which impacted their Q3 margins but positions them well for Q4. In China, the focus is on cost reduction through product innovation and process improvement, along with evaluating the efficiency of their store footprint. They aim to build a stronger foundation for future profitable growth but don't yet have specific cost estimates. Kevin also touches on a peer acquisition that is expected to boost growth in South Asia, particularly India.

In the paragraph, Kevin Wheeler discusses the company's strategy to enhance its business in the region by leveraging scale, footprint, and complementary brands. He highlights the importance of combining different market strengths, such as e-commerce, and accessing new markets to create attractive offerings for dealers and retailers. Wheeler emphasizes the goal to double their business in India, aiming for the number three market share position through strategic acquisitions like Pureit. He believes that having two strong water treatment brands in India will create synergies and drive growth, improving margins over the next couple of years. Although the deal hasn't closed yet, he anticipates both top-line and profitable growth, as well as margin enhancement in the early stages.

In this conversation, Andrew Kaplowitz and Kevin Wheeler discuss the state of the North American commercial water heater market. Kaplowitz inquires about the potential risks and slowdown in the commercial sector, especially as it tends to lag behind the residential market. Wheeler responds by indicating that while the market does lag a bit, they don't foresee a significant downturn due to strong distribution inventory and a robust replacement market. He highlights the company's diversified product offerings, including gas, electric, heat pump, and condensing high-efficiency gas products, which could provide different solutions going forward. Wheeler mentions that their commercial boilers have been performing well, despite slowing coating activity and a weaker residential boiler market, and anticipates a relatively stable outlook without further downside as they move into 2024.

The paragraph discusses the company's current business performance and challenges. The company feels positive about its pepper products, particularly due to benefits like Hellcat technology, and expects strong business in the colder seasons. Despite some noted softness in the market, 80-85% of their business remains in replacement goods. They acknowledge the quarter's significant performance improvements despite an easy comparison basis and anticipate a normalized run rate in Q4 for commercial boilers. The discussion shifts to the financial aspect, specifically free cash flow, which has decreased due to increased inventory forecasts and slower tankless product rollout. About 40% of this inventory increase is attributed to more tankless inventory than expected. Additionally, slower operations in China have led to a decrease in projected year-end customer deposits.

In the closing remarks of the conference call, Helen Gerhard highlighted the solid performance of the Global A. O. Smith team in the third quarter despite challenges. She invited participants to future presentations at four conferences: Baird on November 12, North Coast on November 13, UBS on December 3, and Goldman Sachs on December 4, before concluding the meeting. The operator then ended the call.

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