The paragraph is from the Pool Corporation's Third Quarter 2024 Conference Call. The discussion starts with the operator introducing the session and handing over to Melanie Hart, the Vice President and CFO, who welcomes participants and notes that the call may include forward-looking statements. These statements concern management's outlook and actual results may vary due to different factors discussed in their 10-K. References to non-GAAP financial measures are included, and details are available on their website. The call compares third quarter 2024 with 2023, and Peter Arvan, the President and CEO, begins by highlighting the company's solid performance in maintenance-related sales and strategic progress, emphasizing the team's coordinated efforts in meeting customer needs during the peak season.

The company has continued to outperform the market despite dynamic economic conditions, with a focus on expanded product offerings and enhanced customer service. In the third quarter, total sales declined by 3% due to similar trends as the previous year, impacted by hesitancy in discretionary spending and pressure on mid-level pool buyers. However, higher-end pool demand remains strong. The company has made progress on strategic priorities such as network expansion and pricing optimization. Gross margins remained consistent year-over-year despite challenges in construction and renovation. The company reported an operating income of $176.4 million and an operating margin of 12.3%, with diluted earnings per share of $3.27. Geographically, Florida sales grew by 1%, showing positive trends, while Arizona sales remained flat, indicating some cyclical stability.

The Pool business in Arizona experienced a positive quarter due to excessive heat, while Horizon faced challenges. Sales in Texas and California were down due to weak discretionary spending and adverse weather, impacting maintenance needs. Horizon's net sales declined 7%, with residential construction and remodeling struggling, although commercial construction remained flat. Horizon's maintenance business, accounting for 25% of sales, performed better. Europe's market improved slightly in the third quarter despite ongoing challenges and weak consumer sentiment. Chemical sales rose 2%, driven by private label products, while building material sales declined 9%, reflecting difficulties in construction and remodeling, though they outperformed industry estimates for new pool builds.

The paragraph outlines the company's performance and market dynamics for building and pool-related products. It highlights strong sales from their 100 MPT showrooms featuring a broad product range, including decking tiles and pool finishes. Equipment sales grew by 1%, mainly due to increased demand for non-discretionary items like pumps and filters. Commercial sales rose by 7%, whereas sales to independent retail customers declined by 2%. Franchisee sales were stable, supported by a strong market presence and quality service. The company also advanced its digital initiatives, with orders via its POOL360 platform representing 14.5% of total sales, showcasing ongoing progress in its digital ecosystem.

The company introduced the POOL360 water test and an embedded application within their POOL360 service software to enhance their customer offerings, backed by a robust inventory and private label brands. They launched a POOL360 roadshow across the country to promote these tools and provide training, receiving positive feedback due to their longstanding trust with customers. Additionally, they've expanded their network by opening three new sales centers this quarter and adding three new Pinch A Penny franchised stores, totaling 295 stores, with a strong focus on growth in the Texas market. They are on track to achieve their target of ten new sales center openings this year.

The company anticipates its fourth-quarter sales to align with year-to-date performance and maintains its full-year earnings guidance. While new pool construction might decline by about 20%, reflecting potential impacts from recent storms like Hurricanes Francine, Helene, and Milton, maintenance and repair activity is expected to remain steady, particularly higher in storm-hit Florida. Although pool construction in Florida won't match previous levels due to storm impacts, overall maintenance and remodel activity will adhere to earlier forecasts. The company is optimistic about industry prospects due to stable home values, increased home equity, sunbelt migration, consumer resilience, and potential interest rate easing, predicting favorable growth related to broader housing market trends.

The paragraph discusses the current state and future prospects of a company within the swimming pool and outdoor living industry, which has grown significantly since 2019 despite recent volatility. The company believes it's well-positioned to capitalize on future opportunities due to its integrated network, variety of products, strong vendor partnerships, and customer experience focus. The paragraph concludes by expressing gratitude to the company's team and transitioning to a financial update by Melanie Hart, the Vice President and CFO, who reports that third-quarter 2024 sales were $1.4 billion, a 3% decrease from the previous year, despite improved sales trends in maintenance and a longer selling period compared to the previous year.

During the quarter, the company experienced a 1% inflation benefit due to a 2% increase in equipment and product prices, offset by a 1% decline in chemicals and commodities. Sales were negatively impacted by a 5% drop due to new pool construction, remodeling activities, and a 1% decline from European and Horizon markets. Despite Hurricane Francine and Helene, there were no material sales impacts. The gross margin remained steady at 29.1%, matching the previous year's third quarter. Supply chain improvements were balanced by a less favorable product and customer mix, with lower-margin product sales and discounts for larger customers. Operating expenses grew by 2% year-over-year and included costs from opening new sales centers and anticipated conference expenses moving from Q3 last year to Q4 this year. Technology investment progress continued with new features introduced.

The paragraph outlines the financial performance and strategic actions of a company for the recent quarter. Interest expenses dropped to $12.4 million due to reduced borrowings. Operating income decreased by 9% to $176 million, and net income fell by the same percentage, while diluted earnings per share declined to $3.27. The company showed strong collection efforts with stable accounts receivable and achieved a 6% reduction in inventory, enhancing efficiency. It generated substantial cash, reducing total debt by $110 million and repurchasing $159 million in shares year-to-date. The company reported a debt leverage ratio of 1.41 and expanded its credit facility to $800 million, extending the maturity date to September 2029, providing capacity for capital allocation and strategic growth.

The paragraph discusses the company's financial performance and expectations for the remainder of the year. It highlights a strong year-to-date operating cash flow of $489 million, benefiting from efficient working capital management and completed inventory reduction goals, though inventory is expected to rise in the fourth quarter. There was also a cash flow boost due to deferred tax payments related to Hurricane Francine. The company has spent $50 million on capital expenditures and opened new sales centers, while integrating two acquired centers. They've reduced debt, executed $159 million in share buybacks, and have $507 million left for further repurchases. Sales are predicted to face challenges due to weak discretionary spending, with new pool constructions potentially decreasing 15%-20% compared to 2023, and remodel activity possibly declining up to 15%, influenced by labor and weather conditions.

In 2024, the additional selling days in the fourth quarter and throughout the year are expected to have less than a 1% impact on net sales. Inflation is projected to provide a 1% overall benefit, with a 2% positive effect from equipment and other products being offset by a 1% negative impact from chemical pricing. Construction and remodel activities could reduce sales by 5%, and activity in Horizon Europe may lower sales by 1%. Fourth-quarter gross margins should resemble those of the prior year, while full-year gross margins are expected to align with the year-to-date rate through the third quarter. First-quarter 2024 comparisons reflect any negative year-over-year impact from last year's lower cost inventory. Fixed expenses and added costs like rent, sales center openings, and technology investments will likely raise fourth-quarter expenses by about 5%, leading to a full-year operating expense increase of 4% to 5% compared to last year.

The paragraph discusses the company's financial outlook and strategic initiatives for 2024. It mentions expected expense growth due to investments in new locations and technology, such as the POOL360 platform, with a goal of boosting future sales and productivity. Interest expenses are projected at $50 million, and the annual tax rate is anticipated to be around 25%, excluding certain benefits. The company confirms its diluted EPS range of $11.06 to $11.46, accounting for recent share buybacks and benefits. Despite challenges in discretionary spending and pool construction, the company is focused on strategic investments and improving customer experience and efficiency. The paragraph concludes with the transition to a Q&A session, with Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer asking a question about the weather's impact.

In the article, Peter Arvan discusses the impact of recent hurricanes on business operations. Despite the temporary closures during the storms in Florida, there wasn't a significant effect on the third-quarter performance as the closures and post-storm activity essentially canceled each other out. In the fourth quarter, another storm led to similar temporary closures. Overall, while immediate gains were minimal, Arvan anticipates a future increase in demand for maintenance and repair resulting from storm damage. This demand will unfold in stages, with an initial focus on pool cleaning and water circulation, followed by more extensive repairs to equipment like heaters and automation systems as dealers manage post-storm workloads.

The paragraph discusses the future strategies and expectations of a business regarding construction, inventory management, and pre-buy season planning. Pete anticipates a headwind in new construction sales in the fourth quarter, which might become a tailwind for Florida's construction market early next year. Melanie Hart expresses satisfaction with current inventory levels and efficiency improvements despite declines exceeding sales. The company will maintain efficient inventory utilization without major reduction goals, having adjusted from previous supply chain disruptions. Pre-buy season equipment price increases are expected to be 2-3% next year, and the company plans to manage early inventory acquisition effectively within payment schedules.

In a Q&A session, Ryan Merkel from William Blair inquires about 2025 equipment pricing from OEMs and the company's gross margin expectations for the fourth quarter. Peter Arvan mentions that equipment pricing increases are expected to be in the 2% to 3% range, with variability across items, and are expected to pass through the channel normally. Melanie Hart indicates that the fourth quarter gross margin should be similar to last year's, which is typically up seasonally from the third quarter. The company is guiding for a 30% full-year margin and notes an opportunity for normalized margins this year, free from past inflation and supply chain disruptions, with margins ahead of those in 2019 and 2020 during the same periods.

The paragraph discusses the company's gross margins, highlighting their satisfaction with the current level despite challenges in new pool construction and renovation. They attribute their performance to strategic efforts and investments that have enhanced gross margins. Although they are not reaching a 30% gross margin in the third or fourth quarters due to seasonality and other factors, these margins are in line with their long-term goals. The leadership expresses pride in their achievements and believes the team's work and decisions have contributed positively. After this discussion, Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs poses a question about demand.

In the article, Peter Arvan discusses positive trends in Florida and Arizona, attributing growth to strategic priorities that have helped gain market share despite a competitive environment. He notes that these markets are becoming more normalized and attributes their success to investments in customer experience and business efficiency, which have resonated with consumers. Additionally, Arvan touches on the POOL360 initiative, emphasizing its development into a complete ecosystem beyond its initial B2B system role, and mentions positive feedback from a recent roadshow.

The company has rebuilt its strategy to enhance customer value and experience by investing in initiatives like the POOL360 water test. This software supports retail stores stocking their pool chemicals, offering consistent prescriptions for pool water testing. The reception has been positive, despite slow adoption due to dealers' long-standing brand loyalties. The company is confident in expanding dealer participation given the favorable feedback. Additionally, the POOL360 service has wide applicability as it's useful to both retail and service-focused dealers, with pool service companies being the largest customer group.

The paragraph discusses a tool designed to help businesses increase efficiencies, professionalize operations, improve procurement, and access digital marketing programs to grow their businesses. The tool was rolled out at the end of the 2024 selling season, which means most companies will engage with it after the current season. While onboarding interested customers, the company prioritizes quality over speed, ensuring thorough support. The feedback has been positive, highlighting the benefits of operational efficiencies and digital marketing access. Susan Maklari thanks Pete and wishes him luck before the discussion shifts to David Manthey, who asks about the company's long-term growth strategy. Pete Arvan responds that he does not anticipate changes to the historical growth algorithm.

The paragraph discusses the challenges the company faces in achieving 1% growth through acquisitions as it expands, emphasizing that future growth will primarily come from gaining market share, expanding the installed base, and introducing new products. The long-term growth model relies on a return to normal cycles of new pool construction and renovations, with expectations for operational efficiency and customer value to support growth. The installed base growth is expected to reach 1.5% to 2% when normal conditions resume. Additionally, there's a discussion about the rising costs of new pools, with prices significantly increasing from pre-COVID levels and concerns about whether they will decrease or continue to rise. Peter Arvan suggests there are factors that could impact these prices.

The paragraph discusses the cost factors impacting new pool construction. Labor is the largest expense, and due to economic inflation and near full employment, labor costs are unlikely to decrease. Material costs, while slightly variable for items like steel or PVC, also remain relatively stable and contribute less to the total pool cost. Currently, there is a shift towards building higher-end pools, leading to a reduced overall pool construction rate by 15% to 20%. If construction rates normalize, there might be a shift towards more entry to mid-level pools, potentially lowering the average cost due to a change in the pool type mix. The paragraph concludes with a transition to a new question from David MacGregor regarding the expansion of private label offerings and investments in POOL360.

In this paragraph, Peter Arvan discusses the company's strategy regarding private label products, emphasizing that while equipment, which comprises 30-35% of their business, will not be pursued under private labels, there is significant focus on chemical products. With the acquisition of Pinch A Penny, the company enhanced its capabilities in chemical packaging, refreshing and rebranding their proprietary chemical lines like Regal, E-Z Clor, and Life. These improved products are intended to help the company gain market share, as brand importance is more significant in the retail segment than in the service segment, where price, availability, and location matter more.

The paragraph discusses the company's strengths and growth opportunities in the retail pool chemical and maintenance products market. Despite initial weaknesses in retail, the company now competes strongly with major industry players by leveraging a curated product line, enhanced marketing programs, and refreshed brand offerings. By servicing over 5 million customer transactions through August across nearly 450 locations, the company aims to increase its market share and margins, particularly with its own brands, which offer better profitability. The company sees significant potential for continued growth in the industry.

The paragraph involves a discussion about technology spending and competitive landscape in the business. Peter Arvan mentions that while technology spending for 2025 hasn't been finalized, it is unlikely to change significantly from the $20 million spent this year, as they consider this investment essential for keeping their tools current and valuable. On the competitive landscape, Arvan notes no significant changes in business impact from competitors like SRS, despite the industry being more competitive due to a smaller market. The company focuses on providing value and the best customer experience rather than competing on price.

The paragraph discusses the competitive landscape and chemical supply chain challenges faced by a company. The speaker notes that competitors often compete on price, which fluctuates with industry demand. If industry demand improves, competitive pressures may lessen. The speaker also addresses a question about chemical pricing volatility and supply chain changes. Despite previous incidents, such as a plant fire in Atlanta, the company's chemical supply chain is now more diversified and resilient, with a new packaging facility that sources from multiple suppliers, reducing reliance on a single supplier.

The paragraph discusses the stability of chemical pricing, with no significant changes anticipated despite a fire in Georgia causing minor industry disruptions. There's mention of 59,000 units in new construction and the need for business growth to meet long-term goals, possibly requiring lower rates. Despite high capital and pool costs, demand for pools remains, as indicated by dealers receiving inquiries and requests for pricing updates. Overall, the demand is cautious but present.

The paragraph discusses the state of the pool construction market, which has decreased from an 80,000 pools new build market pre-COVID to an estimated 55,000 to 60,000 pools this year. It suggests that a return to normal levels would require the housing market to loosen, likely needing more rate cuts by the Federal Reserve. Although home values and equity are strong, allowing borrowing, economic conditions are causing some potential pool buyers, particularly in the lower and mid-range markets, to hesitate due to inflation concerns and cost of living increases. It notes that while wages are catching up, further monetary policy easing and a more active housing market might lead to an increase in renovation and remodel activity first, followed by new pool construction. The paragraph also briefly mentions a conversation between Andrew Carter, Trey Grooms, and Melanie about earnings per share (EPS) projections.

In the paragraph, Melanie Hart discusses factors that could influence financial outcomes in the fourth quarter, such as weather conditions affecting pool usage and the rate of new pool construction, particularly in Florida where hurricane impacts are notable. The labor market's influence on construction also plays a role. Hart explains that lower construction numbers could push outcomes toward the lower end of expectations, while repair activity might offset losses but not equate to new building revenues. Additionally, Trey Grooms inquires about a slight change in inflation and pricing guidance, from a 1% to 2% rise to a 1% rise. Hart indicates there is no significant reason behind this slight adjustment.

In the article paragraph, Peter Arvan comments on the performance of the commercial sector, noting that although growth has decelerated from 16% in the previous quarter to 7%, this change is largely due to the timing of large commercial projects and when they are invoiced. He advises not to overinterpret these figures, as the commercial segment remains a small part of the overall business, and the apparent deceleration is project-driven. Additionally, the company is focused on gaining share in this area by investing in value-creating opportunities for customers.

The paragraph discusses the current trends in the construction and retail markets, highlighting that while there is more opportunity in new large construction projects compared to residential building, the retail side shows mixed results. Retail sales of nondiscretionary items like chemicals are strong, but sales of discretionary items like robotic pool cleaners are facing challenges due to their high cost and consumers' financial constraints. This reflects a pressure on discretionary spending, affecting items that are considered more of a luxury than a necessity. The company believes in the strong value proposition of their retail offerings but acknowledges the impact of consumer health on sales.

In the paragraph, Sam Reid from Wells Fargo asks about the impact of acquisitions and new pool constructions on growth projections for 2025. Peter Arvan and Melanie Hart explain that while they cannot precisely predict 2025 due to insufficient information, long-term growth will require a return to normal levels of new pool construction. Currently, new pool construction is below pre-COVID levels, with expectations to finish the year at 55,000 to 60,000 pools compared to the pre-COVID average of 80,000. Acquisitions are not expected to significantly impact growth due to their smaller scale relative to the company's size.

In the paragraph, Sam Reid inquires about sales performance for the fourth quarter and whether the figures align with a projected 5% decline. Peter Arvan responds, indicating that October sales are exceeding the projected decline due to strong demand in Florida, driven by repair work. However, there is uncertainty about the impact on new pool construction for the remainder of the quarter. Favorable October weather is noted as a positive factor. Subsequently, Sean Keenan asks about a 100 basis point improvement in gross margin due to supply chain benefits and whether this is sustainable. Additionally, Keenan inquires about customer mix normalization after COVID-19. Melanie Hart is expected to provide an answer to these questions.

The paragraph discusses the company's financial performance and market dynamics affecting its gross margins. The company clarifies that the 100 basis points mentioned in their projections are more conceptual than quantitative and do not directly correlate to margin improvements. They expect continued benefits from supply chain initiatives and pricing strategies, despite facing pressure on margins due to customer rebate programs with larger clients. This is attributed to the current market conditions, where fewer pools are being built, allowing larger customers to dominate. Once pool building returns to normal levels, smaller builders will re-enter the market, balancing margins. The company acknowledges a lower-than-expected gross margin, attributing it to differences in margin expectation projections while indicating that their margin forecast remains unchanged.

In the closing remarks, Peter Arvan, the President and CEO, thanked everyone for attending and mentioned that the company plans to release their full year and fourth quarter results, as well as initiate guidance for 2025, on February 20, 2025. He also wished everyone a happy and healthy holiday season and expressed gratitude for their support.

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