The paragraph is an introduction to the A.O. Smith Corporation's Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call, led by Helen Gurholt. Participants are informed that the call is in listen-only mode, and a Q&A session will follow the presentations. Key company executives, including Kevin Wheeler, Steve Shafer, and Chuck Lauber, are present. Non-GAAP financial measures are used for enhanced transparency, and adjustments exclude impacts like restructuring and pension settlements. Reconciliations are available in the presentation and online. Forward-looking statements are highlighted, with risks detailed in their press release. Participants are asked to limit questions to one with one follow-up and use the slides provided on the company's website.

Kevin Wheeler discussed A.O. Smith's financial performance and business activities. In 2024, the company experienced decreased overall sales and earnings compared to 2023. Despite a slight sales increase in North America due to higher boiler and water treatment sales, lower water heater volumes offset these gains. Sales in China declined due to a weak economy, although the Indian market showed strong growth with a 13% increase in local currency sales. The acquisition of Pureit had a minimal impact on sales and earnings. A.O. Smith returned $496 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. The company completed its tankless manufacturing facility and implemented strategies to improve its North American water treatment business margins. Additionally, it reorganized its China operations to reduce costs and set up future growth as the economy recovers.

The paragraph discusses the company's sustainability goals and performance in North America for 2024. They aim to reduce water usage by 40 million gallons by 2030 and have already achieved a 10% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. North American water heater sales decreased by 1% in 2024 due to higher pricing offset by lower volumes, with a strong start to the year that fell off in the second half. Residential industry unit volumes were flat compared to 2023, but the company anticipates resilient demand in new construction and replacements. Commercial electric water heater shipments grew, while commercial gas shipments declined by 3% to 4%, although commercial gas has a higher average selling price. Their boiler business grew by 8%, led by specific product lines, despite prior inventory challenges. Water treatment sales increased by 10% due to geographic expansion from acquisitions. Overall, the company is confident in its customer base and product competitiveness.

The company experienced growth in its dealer, direct-to-consumer, and eCommerce channels, but faced decreased sales in the retail channel. To address this, they restructured their product portfolio and recorded a $6 million charge in Q4 to focus on more competitive business channels. In China, full-year third-party sales dropped by 6% due to a weaker economy and reduced consumer demand. Despite higher kitchen product sales, lower water heater and water treatment volumes contributed to this decline. A $11 million restructuring charge in Q4 aimed to optimize business structure for future growth. A stimulus program boosted appliance sales in Q4, reducing customer inventory levels. Overall, 2024 sales were $3.8 billion, a 1% decrease from 2023, with adjusted earnings of $3.73 per share. North American sales saw a slight increase, driven by pricing actions, despite lower water heater volumes.

The paragraph provides a financial performance overview of a company's North America and Rest of the World segments. In North America, adjusted segment earnings decreased by 2% to $714 million, with a margin decline to 24.2%, due to increased boiler and water treatment sales being outweighed by lower water heater volumes and strategic investments. The Rest of the World segment saw a 4% sales decrease to $919 million, driven by unfavorable currency translation and reduced sales in China, partially mitigated by a 13% sales growth in India. The adjusted segment earnings dropped 24% due to lower Chinese sales, with margins decreasing to 8.3%. Overall, fourth-quarter sales decreased 8% year-over-year to $912 million, driven by similar trends in North America and China, resulting in adjusted earnings of $0.85 per share.

In 2024, North American adjusted segment earnings decreased by 11% to $154 million, with a 110 basis point drop in operating margin to 22.4%, primarily due to lower water heater volumes despite some pricing benefits and reduced material costs. The Rest of the World segment saw a 9% decline in fourth-quarter sales, mainly due to lower sales in China, though India's sales grew by 11% in local currency. Adjusted segment earnings in this segment fell to $19 million with a margin of 8.1%, down from $30 million and 11.5% in 2023, driven largely by reduced sales in China. The company's free cash flow totaled $474 million, lower than the previous year due to reduced earnings and higher inventory, despite some offsets from lower accounts receivable. The free cash flow conversion rate was 89%, or 95% excluding higher capital spending in 2024, with a year-end cash balance of $276 million and a net cash position of $83 million. The leverage ratio stood at 9.3%. The company plans to focus on returning capital to shareholders and pursuing organic growth, innovation, and new product development across its product lines and regions.

The company highlights its 2024 achievements, including strategic acquisitions, increased investments, and shareholder returns through dividends and share repurchases totaling almost $1 billion over two years. A quarterly dividend of $0.34 per share was approved, continuing their 30-year streak of dividend increases. In 2025, they expect earnings per share (EPS) between $3.60 and $3.90 and project that steel and non-steel material costs will remain stable. They anticipate a slight margin impact in North America due to product launches and tariffs. Capital expenditures are expected to decrease compared to 2024 but remain above historical levels for investment in engineering and regulatory preparation. Predicted free cash flow is between $500 million and $550 million, with interest expenses between $15 million and $20 million.

The paragraph discusses A.O. Smith's financial outlook and operational strategies. The company expects corporate expenses to be around $75 million and projects an effective tax rate of 24% to 24.5%. The Board has approved the repurchase of 5 million shares, with plans to buy back approximately $400 million worth of stock due to strong cash flow and perceived undervaluation of shares. By the end of 2025, diluted shares are expected to be 142 million. Their outlook does not expect tariff changes in China, Mexico, or Canada but notes potential temporary impacts if China tariffs increase. Transitioning production from Nanjing to Juarez is mentioned. A.O. Smith’s North American manufacturing, primarily based in the U.S., provides flexibility against future tariffs. Stephen Shafer, speaking next, emphasizes the company's strong culture, innovation, and ethical business practices, aligning with his leadership style.

The company anticipates relatively slow growth in 2025 due to flat industry growth in its core North American water heater and boiler markets and a soft market environment in China. Strategic portfolio actions may temporarily reduce growth in North American water treatment. Restructuring benefits are expected to be offset by continued investments in new product development, essential for long-term growth in the North America water heating and boiler sectors. The outlook assumes stable residential and commercial unit volumes in the U.S. compared to 2024, with a carryover of price increases implemented in March 2024.

The article discusses economic challenges in China, highlighting low consumer confidence and a weak real estate market. While stimulus programs are seen positively, recovery is expected to be slow, leading to a projected 5% to 8% decrease in sales in China for 2025. The company's restructuring program should be mostly implemented by the second quarter, aiming to save $15 million annually and recovering operating margins to 8% to 10%. Despite caution about China's market outlook, they remain optimistic about their team's performance. In North America, boiler sales are projected to grow 3% to 5% due to a shift towards higher energy efficiency. Meanwhile, water treatment sales are expected to decrease by about 5% as the company reprioritizes to more competitive channels, resulting in an operating margin increase of 250 basis points in this sector.

The paragraph discusses A.O. Smith's optimistic outlook for its water treatment business in North America and India, projecting growth and outlining strategic priorities for 2024 and 2025. The company expects to see modest growth in sales and margins, with significant investments in innovation and infrastructure, including the launch of new gas tankless water heater products and a commercial R&D facility in Tennessee. While initial profitability may be affected due to production transitions, these initiatives are seen as steps toward long-term success.

The paragraph discusses the company's strategies and investments aimed at maintaining its position as a market leader in water heating products. It highlights the expansion of production capacity for both commercial and residential heat pump water heaters and high-efficiency condensing water heaters to meet increased demand driven by regulatory changes and incentives. Despite challenges in the Chinese market and anticipated growth difficulties in North America, the company remains confident due to its strategic investments, engineering capabilities, and experienced management through economic cycles. The company emphasizes its strong market leadership, replacement business, and financial stability as key strengths for continued investment, strategic acquisitions, and maximizing shareholder returns. The paragraph ends with the company inviting questions from the audience.

In the paragraph, Mike Halloran asks about the demand cadence for the water heater business throughout the year and whether it will return to normal seasonality quarter-to-quarter. Chuck Lauber responds, clarifying that while 2024 exhibited atypical patterns with increases in the residential and commercial markets by June, the forecast for 2025 indicates a return to a more normal cadence, with 51% of activity occurring in the first half of the year. He notes some challenges in early 2025 due to strong comparisons from the previous year. Additionally, there's cautiousness regarding demand in China, where a 5% to 8% volume decrease is expected due to factors like the temporary pause of an appliance discount program and the Chinese festival.

The paragraph discusses the company's restructuring program, focusing on production transitions and market strategies. Kevin Wheeler explains that production of tankless units will move from Nanjing to Juarez by mid-2025, causing a 50 basis point headwind throughout the year. Stephen Shafer elaborates on the water treatment portfolio strategy, highlighting a shift to focus on the most profitable and competitive market segments following a multi-year growth and acquisition phase. The restructuring aims to normalize operations and enhance competitiveness despite anticipated transitional impacts.

The paragraph discusses the company's strategic response to challenges in the Chinese market. The restructuring process aims to improve profitability and future growth by repositioning the company. Despite facing slower-than-expected growth and recovery in China, the company views this as an opportunity to gain insights into market positioning and make strategic adjustments. They are expanding into additional categories to enhance brand leverage. The company remains optimistic about the market's eventual recovery, which hinges on a rebound in consumer confidence, and they plan to participate with a strengthened portfolio.

In the article paragraph, Chuck Lauber discusses the need for economic support in China to achieve their projected 5% to 6% growth, acknowledging current shortfalls and highlighting the importance of consumer confidence linked to housing and premium products. Despite challenges, he remains optimistic about China's long-term potential. Matt Summerville inquires about the water treatment business's future growth, to which Kevin Wheeler responds that the company is focusing on direct-to-consumer, dealer, and wholesale channels while deemphasizing retail, viewing water treatment as a growth area for A.O. Smith.

The paragraph discusses A.O. Smith's positive outlook on the water treatment sector, citing favorable market trends and a strategy of repositioning and learning about the space. Chuck Lauber mentions the company's focus on growth through acquisitions to accelerate its water treatment business. Damian Karas asks about North American water heater shipments, observing sequential improvement in October and November. Kevin Wheeler responds by highlighting 2023 as a record year for their North American water heater business, suggesting strong performance throughout the period.

The paragraph discusses the company's performance and market conditions from late 2023 to 2024, highlighting an initial strong demand due to extended lead times in 2023, which led customers to build inventory. By 2024, lead times normalized, prompting wholesalers and retailers to adjust orders and inventories, resulting in lower volumes. Despite this situational adjustment, customer relationships remained strong with no major losses. Regarding pricing, the company achieved positive pricing across categories in 2024, meeting expectations set by first-quarter implementations. Pricing discipline was maintained in the industry, despite some situational discounting in different markets.

The paragraph discusses a shift in the company's North American water treatment strategy, focusing more on wholesale, dealer networks, and direct-to-consumer channels due to their stronger margin profiles compared to retail. Stephen Shafer explains that the decision comes from learning about competitive and market dynamics across different channels, where they identified their strengths. Kevin Wheeler adds that while they maintain an omni-channel approach, they are adjusting their focus to areas where they can be more successful, rather than exiting other channels completely.

The company is not exiting any channels but is focusing on areas with a competitive advantage to drive sales and margin growth. They're excited about a new launch this year and confident in leveraging their strengths. Bryan Blair inquires about the margin expectations for Pureit. Chuck Lauber explains that Pureit is expected to contribute $50 million in revenue by 2025 and has similar mid-single-digit operating margins as their India business. The integration of Pureit is crucial for growth in India, enhancing their eCommerce and retail presence and elevating them to the third position in the market. The integration is progressing well, and the business scale-up will provide opportunities for growth and margin improvement.

In this segment of a conference call, Scott Graham from Seaport Research Partners asks Stephen Shafer about a 4% price increase in water heaters announced in March 2024, which will carry over into 2025. Scott also inquires about potential further price increases due to anticipated steel price rises in the latter half of the year. Kevin Wheeler responds, highlighting the company's historical strategy of managing pricing effectively, maintaining credibility with customers by absorbing increases initially, and eventually offsetting inflationary pressures over time. He refrains from making specific predictions regarding future price changes. Following this exchange, Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs is introduced with her question regarding channel inventories and water heaters.

The conversation between the company and its customers is characterized by caution due to uncertainty in the market, such as interest rates and new construction challenges. Customers are closely managing inventories, with a focus on sellout. Despite these uncertainties, business is expected to remain flat for both residential and commercial sectors at the start of the year. The demand for essential items like water heaters and boilers, primarily driven by replacements, remains steady. Order rates have seen sequential improvement, with slight increases from Q3 to Q4 and continuing into early 2025, indicating some recovery and customer readiness to restock.

The paragraph discusses the challenges faced by a company in terms of order rates and market conditions. Despite a slight uptick in January orders, order rates have not returned to early 2024 levels. Susan Maklari inquires about a projected 5% decline in the North America water treatment sector. Chuck Lauber explains that this decline is due to a repositioning of the portfolio, which involves de-emphasizing certain products and go-to-market models, creating growth headwinds. Despite this, they expect growth in focused areas and are confident about returning to growth post-transition by 2025. Nathan Jones from Stifel asks about the impact of China's trade-in/stimulus programs on their business. Stephen Shafer begins addressing this by mentioning that there was an impact on their market in Q4.

The paragraph discusses the cautious optimism a company has regarding a trade-in program that showed positive results in the previous quarter. Although the retailers experienced growth, the benefits didn't fully reach the company's business. The program, extended province by province until 2025, is still being implemented differently across areas. There's uncertainty about whether the demand increase is lasting or just a result of people waiting for the program. The company, while encouraged by the initial success, is closely monitoring its impact to determine true demand growth, particularly in consumer behavior like kitchen remodeling and apartment upgrades. The company has adopted a cautious approach to its financial guidance, with minimal benefit from the program anticipated until there's more evidence of sustained consumer investment.

In the paragraph, Saree Boroditsky asks about the potential for long-term growth despite a weak start to the year, particularly concerning China and overall sales growth projections of 5% to 6% through 2028. Kevin Wheeler acknowledges the need for higher recovery rates and emphasizes the importance of sustainable growth, considering factors like product mix and premium categories. Chuck Lauber adds that water treatment and growth in China are expected to be repositioning focuses by 2025, likely affecting the top line. The company is making strategic investments to position itself for future growth. Saree also inquires about the competitive environment in the North American water heater market, to which Kevin Wheeler responds by noting some market volatility, particularly in the Northeast and Midwest regions.

The paragraph discusses A.O. Smith's ability to navigate market changes and emphasizes its stable customer base with no loss of major clients anticipated in 2024. It highlights the company's history of managing disruptions and maintaining strong, long-term partnerships that are expected to continue benefiting both parties. The paragraph also introduces a new speaker, Stephen Shafer, who expresses his positive impressions of A.O. Smith, noting the market-leading products and strong customer relationships. Shafer sees opportunities to leverage his experience to add value to the company, focusing on three main areas.

The paragraph discusses three main areas of focus for enhancing A. O. Smith's operations. First, the company aims to advance its problem-solving culture on the plant floor to eliminate waste more effectively. Second, there is an emphasis on optimizing the value of IT and ERP system investments while staying competitive with rapidly evolving technology. Third, the focus is on improving the company's portfolio through restructuring and innovation to maintain competitiveness and drive future growth. The speaker highlights leveraging personal experience in these areas to contribute to A. O. Smith's development.

The paragraph discusses A.O. Smith's strategic positioning in relation to potential tariffs involving Mexico and Canada. Kevin Wheeler highlights that A.O. Smith has a diversified manufacturing footprint, with facilities in both Mexico and the U.S. This setup provides flexibility and optionality, mitigating risks associated with region-specific tariffs. Additionally, A.O. Smith is uniquely positioned in Canada with a water heater tank plant in Montreal, enhancing their competitive advantage. Chuck Lauber addresses a $10 million increase in corporate expenses for 2025, although the details of this increase are not explicitly covered in the paragraph.

The paragraph is a part of a Q&A session involving individuals from a company discussing their financial outlook and strategic plans. Andrew Kaplowitz from Citi asks about the company's future portfolio management and potential for increased aggression in mergers and acquisitions (M&A). Stephen Shafer responds, stating that while they are exploring future portfolio options, they remain disciplined. Kevin Wheeler then addresses a question about the company's growth expectations, affirming their forecast of 3% to 5% growth driven by stable coating activity, despite a modest slowdown in boiler activity in the previous quarter.

The paragraph discusses the success of the CREST boiler product, which is performing well in a market that typically grows by 1-2% but is now seeing growth of 3-5% due to the high-efficiency product line. The conversation then shifts to the restructuring in China, which is over halfway complete and expected to be fully implemented by the end of Q2. The restructuring aims to streamline the business and improve competitiveness in the Chinese market, focusing more on SG&A (Selling, General & Administrative) benefits rather than COGS (Cost of Goods Sold) benefits.

In the discussion, Kevin Wheeler and Chuck Lauber talk about their company's focus on increasing efficiency and reducing costs through restructuring and productivity improvements. They also mention efforts to manage inventory levels, specifically attempting to reduce the days of inventory on hand to below 40 days by the end of 2025. Despite current inventory being higher than desired due to investments and lower-than-expected volume, they are actively working on this initiative. The conversation ends with Helen Gurholt emphasizing the company's commitment to overcoming challenges in 2024 and announcing upcoming presentations at two conferences.

The paragraph announces the end of a conference call, thanking participants and instructing them to disconnect.

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