The paragraph is from a transcript of Generac Holdings Inc.'s full year 2024 earnings conference call. The operator begins by explaining the procedure for participants to ask questions after the presentation. Kris Rosemann, who opens the call, welcomes everyone and introduces the participants, including Aaron Jagdfeld, the CEO, and York Ragen, the CFO. Kris mentions that the call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties, with additional details available in the company's earnings release and SEC filings. Aaron Jagdfeld then notes that the company's fourth quarter results demonstrate their ability to quickly increase production and meet high demand for home standby and portable generators due to increased power outages in the latter half of 2024.

In the fourth quarter, there was a significant increase in demand for residential products, leading to record net sales, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted net income, with free cash flow reaching a quarterly high. Overall net sales rose 16% year-over-year to $1.23 billion, with residential product sales up 28% due to strong growth in generator shipments and residential energy technology products. C&I sales were flat year-over-year, with domestic industrial distributor and telecom panel sales offset by weakness in other areas. Favorable sales mix and lower input costs resulted in substantial gross margin expansion, boosting adjusted EBITDA margins to 21.5%. The 2025 outlook anticipates continued sales growth driven by residential products and further gross margin improvement, with stable adjusted EBITDA margins. The potential impact of new tariffs is not yet included in this outlook, but cost reductions and higher pricing are expected to offset any effects. The full year 2024 saw net sales growth, with domestic strength compensating for C&I and international market weaknesses.

The paragraph outlines the company's achievement of the highest gross margins since 2010 due to a sales mix shift to higher-margin residential products and favorable input costs. This resulted in a significant increase in adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow, reaching a record $605 million. It highlights the impact of severe weather on power grid reliability, noting an increase in power outages due to hurricanes. The text underscores challenges faced by grid operators amid rising power demand driven by AI, data center expansion, electrification, and a transition to low-carbon energy sources, which adds pressure on grid reliability.

The paragraph discusses the growing imbalance between power supply and demand in the U.S. and Canada, which is leading to potential power outages and rising electricity costs. This situation is driving demand for energy management technologies as homeowners and businesses seek to reduce electric bills and improve power resiliency. It highlights the need for significant investments in new power generation and infrastructure, which will likely result in increased electricity prices for consumers. Generac Holdings Inc. is focusing on developing energy ecosystems that combine solar generation, battery storage, generators, and load management devices to give customers better control over their power costs and availability.

The paragraph discusses Generac Holdings Inc.'s strategic acquisitions and organic investments in energy ecosystems, which have expanded its market for home standby generators. With only 6.5% of the U.S. market penetrated, each 1% increase in penetration could add approximately $4 billion in retail value. Generac, holding over 70% market share, is well-positioned to lead this category. The company saw a mid-20% increase in fourth-quarter shipments due to increased power outages in 2024, with record levels of home consultations. Marketing efforts focus on growing and diversifying sales channels despite a temporary decrease in close rates as the dealer network adapts to heightened demand after major outages.

In 2025, Generac Holdings Inc. expects close rates to improve due to ongoing investments in lead optimization, dealer expansion, consumer engagement, and financing options for homeowners. The company's residential dealer network grew to approximately 9,200 dealers by the end of the year, enhancing sales and service capacity and boosting demand for home standby generators. Their aligned contractor program with electrical contractors is also gaining momentum. Despite flat activations in the fourth quarter, stronger growth in activations is expected in the first quarter of 2025, driven by hurricane activity and project lead times. Generac continues to focus on innovation and recently launched new home standby generators at a customer conference in Nashville.

The company has launched its most comprehensive update to its home standby generator platform in over a decade, featuring the industry's largest air-cooled generator with a 28-kilowatt output. This product line is designed for homeowners with high power demands, offering efficient and cost-effective backup power solutions. Innovations include automotive technologies for better fuel efficiency and lower emissions, as well as an advanced controller with integrated connectivity options for improved diagnostics and remote management. The enhanced design supports easier installation and servicing, promising lower total ownership costs and increased value for customers and partners. Additionally, the company has expanded its manufacturing capacity to support this product line, which will start shipping in the second half of 2025.

The addition of a facility in Trenton, South Carolina, and increased automation have significantly enhanced Generac Holdings Inc.'s capacity to meet growing demand for its products, especially during high-demand periods. This has allowed the company to meet the surge in demand following outages in late 2024 without significant delays. For 2025, the company anticipates increased sales of home standby generators due to heightened product awareness, new introductions, and strategic initiatives to improve sales and marketing. Additionally, portable generator sales more than doubled due to outage sensitivity, with expectations for continued growth and challenges compared to the previous year. Sales of residential energy technology products, including Ecobee and energy storage systems, saw significant year-over-year growth, with Ecobee achieving record sales and profitability in the fourth quarter. Generac believes it is well-positioned to capitalize on long-term growth trends in the backup power market.

In October, Ecobee introduced the Smart Thermostat Light and Smart Thermostat Essential, targeting the growing value segment of the smart thermostat market to expand its connected home base, which reached 4.25 million households by the end of 2024. Generac Holdings Inc. also benefited from increased shipments of PowerCell Energy Storage Systems, driven by a Department of Energy program in Puerto Rico. Despite uncertainties in clean energy policies, long-term fundamentals remain strong, encouraging on-site electricity management. Generac's new product offerings, including PowerCell 2, PowerCell 2 Max, and advanced home standby generators, enhance their residential energy ecosystem by providing a cost-effective, resilient energy solution integrated with Ecobee's intelligent energy management tools.

For the full year 2025, the company expects significant double-digit sales growth in residential energy technology products, anticipating net sales between $300 to $400 million. This growth is attributed to the accelerated deployment of PowerCell Energy Storage Systems in Puerto Rico, the launch of PowerCell 2, and strong Ecobee sales, with Ecobee expected to achieve positive profitability. In the commercial and industrial sector, global product sales saw a slight year-over-year increase, with domestic growth driven by strong manufacturing execution, although international markets were softer. While domestic sales increased modestly in Q4, driven by a robust increase in shipments to industrial distributors and telecom customers, overall growth faced challenges due to weaker rental and standby markets. Despite an increased manufacturing throughput, a reduced backlog poses a growth headwind for the industrial distributor channel in 2025. Sales to national telecom customers also saw strong growth year-over-year and sequentially in Q4.

The paragraph discusses expectations for growth in 2025 due to global increases in tower and network hub counts requiring backup power. While shipments to rental equipment customers declined in the fourth quarter due to reduced capital spending, there is still potential for growth as infrastructure projects recover. The market for commercial and industrial (C&I) generators remains weak due to high interest rates, but there is strong pipeline activity for C&I battery energy storage systems (BES) and multi-asset microgrid solutions. The company is positioned to lead in the C&I microgrid market due to its strengths in natural gas generators and recent acquisitions bolstering its capabilities. These acquisitions aim to address power quality and pricing challenges, and the company's maturing energy ecosystem plans to offer cost-effective, turnkey microgrid solutions.

Generac Holdings Inc. recently unveiled a new lineup of larger diesel generators with a power output of up to 3.25 megawatts, certified for the U.S. and aimed at supporting mission-critical backup power needs like data centers. This move aligns with the expected growth in artificial intelligence adoption and data center expansion, offering a long-term business opportunity. Initial orders are expected in the second quarter, with shipments later in the year, minimally impacting 2025 sales. International sales grew modestly, with strong demand in Latin America counterbalancing European softness, and order activity surpassing shipments. Improved adjusted EBITDA margins resulted from a favorable sales mix. For 2025, regional performance is expected to vary, and the company will focus on enhancing its market position through C&I BES, microgrid, and data center solutions, aiming to strengthen its presence in both established and new regions.

The paragraph discusses the company's record-breaking fourth-quarter results, highlighting its leadership in the residential backup power market and commitment to innovation. York Ragen details the financial results, noting a 16% increase in total net sales to $1.23 billion compared to the previous year. Residential product sales grew by 28% due to strong demand for home generators and energy storage systems, while commercial and industrial sales remained stable at $363 million. The growth is attributed to an active power outage season and recent product innovations. The company remains confident in its growth strategy and future outlook.

In the quarter, sales growth was slightly positively impacted by acquisitions and foreign currency effects. Core sales increased due to strong domestic shipments but faced offsets from decreased sales to rental equipment accounts and a decline in international C&I product sales. Sales for other products and services rose by 6% to $128 million, driven by growth in aftermarket parts, connectivity subscriptions, and international services. The gross profit margin improved to 40.6% from 36.5% due to a favorable sales mix and production efficiencies. Operating expenses rose by 28%, primarily due to higher employee costs, increased marketing, and incentive compensation. Adjusted EBITDA hit a record $265 million, or 21.5% of net sales, in the quarter, compared to $213 million in the previous year, and reached $789 million for the full year.

In the fourth quarter, the domestic segment achieved a 20% sales increase to $1.07 billion, with a record adjusted EBITDA of $243 million, up from $192 million the previous year. For 2024, domestic sales grew 9% to $3.64 billion, with a 19.1% EBITDA margin. Conversely, the international segment saw a 1% sales decrease to $187 million in the quarter, with a 12% adjusted EBITDA compared to 10.7% previously. Annual international sales fell 13% to $725 million, with a 13.2% EBITDA margin. Consolidated GAAP net income rose to $117 million from $97 million, accounting for fair value adjustments in investments, while the effective tax rate decreased to 18.9% from 23.7%.

In the fourth quarter of 2024, the company experienced a decrease in its effective tax rate due to a favorable earnings mix in lower tax regions and the absence of prior year's unfavorable tax items. GAAP diluted net income per share rose to $2.15 from $1.50 the previous year, benefiting from an $11.6 million redemption value adjustment and a reduced share count. Adjusted net income increased to $168 million, or $2.80 per share, from $126 million, or $2.07 per share. Cash flow from operations reached $339 million, with a record free cash flow of $286 million, driven by strong operating earnings and a $170 million reduction in working capital. The company's gross debt leverage ratio was 1.7 times adjusted EBITDA. For the full year 2024, the company achieved record cash flow from operations and free cash flow of $741 million and $605 million, respectively.

The paragraph discusses the company's financial performance and strategic activities, highlighting a significant over $200 million cash inflow from working capital reduction, $137 million in capital expenditures for organic growth, and $35 million for acquisitions in 2024. The company also repurchased 1.05 million shares for $153 million, with $347 million left in their repurchase authorization, and repaid $278 million of debt while extending a term loan maturity. Looking ahead, the company expects 2025 net sales growth of 3% to 7% year-over-year, accounting for foreign currency impacts and acquisitions, without assuming the effects of major power outage events.

The paragraph forecasts growth in residential net sales at a mid to high single-digit rate, led by increased demand for home standby generators due to power outages in 2024. Residential energy technology products are also expected to show strong growth due to project wins and new product launches, while portable generator sales may decline in 2025 without major outages. Mixed performance is anticipated in the commercial and industrial (C&I) markets, with growth in telecom, C&I BES, and data centers offset by declines in rental, beyond standby, and domestic industrial distributor shipments. Foreign currency impacts may slightly hinder C&I sales growth, which are expected to remain flat year-over-year. Net sales are expected to follow historical seasonality in 2025, with the first half accounting for 44-45% and the second half for 55-56% of sales. The first quarter is projected to see a low single-digit increase in overall net sales, with strong growth in residential sales counterbalanced by a high single-digit decline in C&I sales.

The company expects a 100 basis point increase in gross margins for 2025 compared to 2024, approaching 40%, driven by lower input costs. Tariff impacts are not included in this guidance, but they plan to offset any increases with cost reductions and price hikes, maintaining an EBITDA margin percent neutral impact. Gross margins are projected to rise from 38-39% in the first half to 40-41% in the second half due to favorable sales mix and input cost improvements. Adjusted EBITDA margins for 2025 are anticipated to be 18-19%, similar to 2024 at 18.4%, with operating expenses offsetting gross margin gains. Margins are expected to follow seasonal patterns, being flat at approximately 14% in Q1 and rising to 21% in Q4, due to higher sales volumes, sales mix, and cost improvements, resulting in a second-half margin more than 500 basis points above the first half.

The paragraph provides financial guidance for 2025, including an expected GAAP effective tax rate of 24% to 24.5%, which is higher than the 2024 rate. Interest expenses are projected to decrease to $74 to $78 million due to reduced borrowings and lower SOFR rates. Capital expenditures are estimated to be 3% of net sales, while depreciation and amortization expenses are forecasted at $83 to $87 million and $92 to $96 million, respectively. Stock compensation is expected to range from $53 million to $57 million. Free cash flow will likely be weighted towards the latter half of 2025, with a conversion rate from adjusted net income of 80% to 90%. The diluted share count is anticipated to slightly increase to 60.5 million.

The paragraph discusses the excitement surrounding new, larger Commercial and Industrial (C&I) products that the company plans to introduce, specifically targeting the data center market. Aaron Jagdfeld highlights that their international team has been developing this product and collaborating with data center partners since 2024. These products will start shipping this year, and a U.S. certified version is also ready. The paragraph doesn't specify the exact total addressable market (TAM) but suggests that there is considerable public data on the fast growth of data centers.

The paragraph discusses the challenges and opportunities in the supply chain of certain products due to increased demand, resulting in long lead times, often exceeding a year. The speaker expresses optimism about participating and succeeding in the market due to their brand, national coverage, and ability to offer global and coast-to-coast U.S. support, which is valuable for data center operators. Although the U.S. certified products will not contribute significantly to domestic results this year, the company plans to open the order book in the second quarter and is having positive discussions with data center customers. The speaker is excited about future developments and updates.

The paragraph discusses the financial outlook for Ecobee and the overall energy technology business of Generac Holdings Inc. Ecobee achieved above breakeven results in Q4 and is expected to maintain profitability in 2025. For the overall energy tech business, it is projected that margin dilution will improve to around 3-3.5% in 2025, with further improvements in the following years. New products like PowerCell 2 and Power Micro are set to launch midyear and in the second half, respectively, which are critical milestones. Although there is anticipation of reaching profitability by the end of 2026, there will still be some EBITDA margin dilution for several years. Additionally, changes in the policy landscape are being monitored closely.

The paragraph discusses the challenges and trends affecting energy technology growth in 2024, particularly due to high interest rates. It highlights the critical importance of technologies like solar, battery storage, electric vehicles, and energy management for improving power resiliency and cost management for homeowners and businesses. There is a growing concern about increasing power costs, with the U.S. national average having risen significantly in recent years and expected to continue rising. The text emphasizes the importance of addressing these issues, as power bills are becoming a major expense. Generac Holdings Inc. is focusing on these "megatrends" of lower power quality and higher power prices, investing in both its traditional generator products and broader energy solutions.

The paragraph discusses expectations and performance in the residential growth sector for the first quarter, noting strong double-digit growth despite a decline in commercial and industrial products. It addresses how the company, with York Ragen's comments, has improved lead times by investing in capacity, particularly through the introduction of a new facility in the southeast. Aaron Jagdfeld mentions the historical context of outages driving demand and the company's past struggle to match capacity with demand, outlining significant investments made to address this, including the new Trenton plant launched in mid-2022.

The paragraph discusses the company's automation investments in its facilities, particularly in Whitewater and Trenton, which have increased production capacity and allowed for a more rapid response to demand surges. This has helped avoid backlogs and emotional buying behaviors driven by scarcity concerns among distribution partners. By increasing capacity and changing order policies, the company has reduced order lead times and prevented dealers from ordering unsold products, promoting a healthier business operation.

The paragraph discusses the business potential of the Home Standby segment, highlighting its significant growth even in the absence of major outages and the low penetration rate of 6.5% by the end of the year, which presents a large opportunity for expansion. The company has been investing heavily in capacity, automation, and new product lines to maintain its market leadership. In response to a question from Jeff Hammond about the impact of recent major storms and contractor feedback, Aaron Jagdfeld notes that while the storms were regionally concentrated, particularly in Texas, they have contributed to Texas approaching the national average in penetration rate, indicating a strong market for their products there.

The paragraph discusses the growth in a certain metric from 2-3% to 6% since the freeze of 2021, highlighting the significant impact of storms Helene and Milton. Helene was a widespread event affecting Florida and the Carolinas, while Milton followed shortly after, impacting similar Florida markets. These concentrated events led to high demand on dealer bases, resulting in pressure on sales and installation bandwidth. The typical timeline for project completion from proposal to installation is about 100 to 120 days, with Florida being longer due to permitting. Currently, the impacts of these storms are beginning to manifest, and it's anticipated that the affected areas, including Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas, will remain active through 2025. In contrast, other U.S. markets were less active in the previous year.

The paragraph discusses the company's performance in various regions, noting that areas like the Midwest and parts of Canada saw slower growth and installation rates last year. However, this slowdown was somewhat mitigated by an increase in IHCs (presumably installation or outage-related services) due to certain events, particularly in California due to power safety shutoffs. The company emphasizes the importance of having a large dealer network, with 9,200 dealers, to manage these localized outages and continue market momentum even after initial demand declines. The focus is on maintaining a high baseline demand through active marketing and sales efforts. The paragraph concludes with a question from Brian Drab from William Blair about the company's C&I (Commercial and Industrial) segment, particularly improvements in the telecom sector and factors that could revive the rental market.

The paragraph discusses the potential growth areas for a company's commercial and industrial (C&I) business, particularly in telecom. Aaron Jagdfeld highlights that while there has been volatility in residential markets, the C&I business remains stable. He mentions that the telecom market showed improvement in Q4 after a downturn, driven by high-profile outage events that led carriers to reassess network investments. He notes that there's a significant market opportunity, as only about 50% of telecom sites have backup power, and anticipates a positive investment cycle through 2025. Additionally, Jagdfeld briefly touches on rental opportunities and considers ways to reignite activity in that area.

The paragraph discusses the impact of Capital Expenditure (CapEx) spending on specific product categories such as light towers, mobile generators, and mobile heaters. The speaker notes that these products have been affected by customer spending patterns due to aging fleets. While potential tailwinds from domestic oil and gas production or infrastructure investments could benefit them, their guidance assumes the market will continue to decline, albeit at a slower rate than before. They anticipate further market drops in Q1 but emphasize that the market is cyclical, they haven't lost market share, and there's still a need for their products. The conversation ends with the operator connecting Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs for a question.

The paragraph discusses the anticipated cadence of the standby business in 2025, with a focus on the expected installation timeline for home standby products. York Ragen explains that their guidance for 2025 is based on historical outage data over the last five years, excluding major events, and considers the seasonality of outages, which tend to increase in the latter half of the year. This is coupled with normal lead times and available inventory as they enter 2025. Aaron Jagdfeld adds that there will be overall growth for the year, but Q1 is typically slower due to winter weather conditions that hinder installations, especially in regions affected by snow and cold.

The paragraph features a discussion about a company's business pacing and backlog satisfaction, highlighting that the backlog was fulfilled in Q4, which impacted Q1. The company anticipates returning to normal pacing and growth throughout the year. A question follows about data center opportunities, with clarification that the company's products cater to both edge and hyperscale data centers. Additionally, there is a conversation about operating expenses (OpEx) and EBITDA margin targets, questioning whether reaching a 20% EBITDA margin is still a focus given existing revenue projections. Aaron Jagdfeld addresses the data center aspect, stating the company's products serve both edge and hyperscale data centers, and expects York to comment further on OpEx and EBITDA goals.

The company is discussing their new focus on diesel backup-only generators for emergency use, which are U.S. certified and aimed at the hyperscale and edge data center markets. York Ragen mentions that the company's long-term EBITDA margin projections remain around the low 20% range, even though the down cycle in the commercial and industrial (C&I) sectors hit faster and deeper than expected. The clean energy segment has been slow due to discussed reasons, causing a delay of 12 to 18 months before margins improve as expected. Despite this, gross margins are performing better than anticipated, providing a positive offset. Mark Strouse from JPMorgan introduces a question about tariffs, interested in the potential neutral impact from pricing and cost reductions by 2025.

In the paragraph, Aaron Jagdfeld discusses Generac Holdings Inc.'s approach to potential tariff impacts and supply chain resilience. He mentions that while they are evaluating the new 25% tariff on steel and aluminum, the company already has a strong domestic supply chain for metals, which minimizes concern. The company benefits from lessons learned during COVID-19 disruptions, leading them to diversify their component sources for their home standby products to enhance supply chain resilience and increase capacity. Jagdfeld is not certain about competitors' cost structures and strategies regarding tariffs.

The paragraph discusses a company's strategy to manage supply chain challenges amid tariffs and cost increases. The company is diversifying its supply base to avoid regional concentration and mitigate tariff impacts. However, some cost increases are unavoidable, potentially due to logistics or secondary sourcing. The company plans to negotiate with suppliers to absorb tariff costs but recognizes this may not be feasible with all suppliers. Consequently, while there will be some pricing adjustments, the company aims to minimize these changes to stay competitive and maintain its market-leading position in pricing.

The paragraph discusses the upcoming rollout of a next-generation home standby product and its impact on pricing and cost structure. Aaron Jagdfeld mentions that while there are additional costs associated with the new features, these are relatively nominal in relation to the overall cost. As a result, the pricing for the new line will be higher when it launches in the second half of the year. However, formal pricing has not been decided yet due to concerns about tariff-related supply chain impacts. The company plans to finalize pricing soon and has made assumptions for its guidance, but notes the adjustments are expected to be minimal.

The paragraph discusses a conversation between York Ragen and Keith Housum regarding energy technology sales projections. For 2025, sales are expected to be between $300 to $400 million, compared to $280 million in 2024, indicating a 25% increase at the midpoint. The discussion touches on potential threats to funding from the U.S. administration, specifically for the Department of Energy (DOE), and how these could impact expectations for 2025. Ragen clarifies that their program in Puerto Rico is not tied directly to funding from the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) or the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL), but it's unclear if this status is beneficial or not. Additionally, it’s noted that Tesla is a major competitor in the DOE’s Puerto Rico residential battery program.

In the paragraph, the speaker addresses uncertainties in the program's targeting, the sales range for the year ($300 to $400), and the risks due to the current policy environment. Despite these uncertainties, they express excitement about introducing new products to the market, emphasizing the importance of self-generation, storage, resiliency, and controlling power costs for homeowners. This aligns with their strategy of "Powering a Smarter World." Subsequently, Vikram Bagri from Citi asks about the assumptions behind the company's guidance, particularly regarding a potential demand pullback after a previous surge, and how the company plans to navigate pricing strategies to balance market sensitivity and closing rates. Aaron Jagdfeld is then prompted to respond.

The speaker addresses questions about anticipated demand and close rates for generators. They clarify there is no expected pullback in 2025, just a new, higher baseline following a surge in demand met in Q4. This surge led to a tough comparison that may dampen residential growth rates, and no major events are assumed in future guidance. Close rates have compressed due to high demand for consultations, which delays project closures. The speaker anticipates close rates will improve in 2025 and mentions efforts like consumer financing to accelerate this improvement.

The paragraph discusses a company's focus on increasing consumer financing as a part of their deals, noting that financing options are linked to better project close rates. They are collaborating with their partner, Synchrony, and exploring creative and aggressive financing options to expand in this area. This will remain a focus for the company in 2025. The discussion concludes with Kris Rosemann thanking participants and mentioning that first-quarter earnings for 2025 will be shared in late April.

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