The paragraph is from a conference call discussing D.R. Horton's financial results for the second quarter of fiscal year 2025. Jessica Hansen, the Senior Vice President of Communications, introduces the call and notes that it includes forward-looking statements as per the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, with no guarantee that actual outcomes will match predictions. The earnings release and additional reports are available on the company's website, and updated data presentations will be posted afterwards. Paul Romanowski, the President and CEO, along with other executives, also discusses the company's solid results, including earnings of $2.58 per diluted share.

The company reported a pre-tax income of $1.1 billion on $7.7 billion in revenue, achieving a pre-tax profit margin of 13.8%. It emphasizes capital efficiency and shareholder returns, with notable returns on inventory, equity, and assets, ranking highly among S&P 500 companies. Despite a slower-than-expected spring selling season due to affordability concerns and declining consumer confidence, the company has maintained a low cancellation rate and adjusted its strategies to boost sales. They have increased sales incentives to drive traffic, with recent sales in March and April exceeding February levels. The company expects to keep incentives high, influenced by market conditions and mortgage rate changes, while continuing to return cash to shareholders.

In the second quarter of fiscal 2025, the company reported earnings of $2.58 per diluted share, down from the previous year's $3.52. Net income was $810 million on revenues of $7.7 billion, with home sales generating $7.2 billion from 19,276 closings, compared to $8.5 billion from 22,548 closings the prior year. The average closing price was $372,500, down 1% sequentially and year-over-year. Net sales orders fell 15% to 22,437 homes, with a 17% decrease in order value to $8.4 billion. The cancellation rate was 16%, down from the previous quarter's 18%, but up from the previous year's 15%. The number of active selling communities rose by 5% sequentially and 10% year-over-year. The gross profit margin on home sales was 21.8%, down 90 basis points from the previous quarter, driven by higher incentive costs. Lot costs increased by 3%, while home sales revenues and construction costs remained stable sequentially.

The paragraph discusses the anticipated increase in incentive costs, which are expected to reduce home sales gross margins in the third quarter. Factors influencing these costs include demand, mortgage interest rates, and market conditions. It also notes a 4% rise in SG&A expenses in the second quarter, attributed to platform expansion, and details on employee, community, and market growth. There are updates on home inventory and construction cycle improvements, with a focus on market-driven inventory management. Lastly, it mentions the homebuilding lot position, with 25% owned and 75% controlled via purchase contracts.

The paragraph discusses various aspects of the homebuilding and rental operations of a company. It highlights their focus on collaborating with land developers for efficient capital use and flexibility, noting that 64% of closed homes were not developed by Forestar or third parties. The company invested $2 billion in the second quarter in lots, land, and development. Paul Romanowski notes that rental operations generated $23 million in pre-tax income from selling 519 single-family and 300 multi-family rental units, utilizing a merchant-build model to enhance their homebuilding operations. The rental property inventory stood at $3.1 billion. Jessica Hansen adds that Forestar, their lot development company, reported $351 million in revenues from selling 3,411 lots, with a strong controlled lot position and a significant percentage under contract with rights to D.R. Horton.

The paragraph outlines the financial and strategic highlights of a company in its recent quarter. The company purchased $270 million of finished lots from Forestar, which maintains strong liquidity and a 29.8% net debt-to-capital ratio. Forestar plays a crucial role in supplying lots to the industry. The company's financial services generated $73 million in pre-tax income from $213 million in revenue, with a 34.3% pre-tax profit margin, while handling financing for 81% of homebuyers, most of whom were first-time buyers. The company's disciplined capital allocation strategy supports strong returns and cash flows, maintaining a solid balance sheet with upgraded credit ratings and significant liquidity. The homebuilding segment generated $876 million in cash from operations, with total liquidity of $5.8 billion, including $2.5 billion in cash and $3.3 billion in credit capacity. Additionally, $700 million in senior notes were issued in February, due in 2035.

The company reported a debt of $6.5 billion at the end of the quarter, with $500 million in notes maturing within a year. They aim to maintain a leverage of around 20% and reported stockholders' equity of $24.3 billion, with a book value per share of $78.82, a 9% increase from last year. The return on equity was 17.4%, and return on assets was 12.2% for the year ending March 31. The company paid $126 million in dividends and repurchased $1.3 billion in shares, totaling $2.4 billion for the fiscal year, reducing shares by 7%. A $5 billion share repurchase authorization was approved. Jessica Hansen stated that the third quarter is expected to generate $8.4 billion to $8.9 billion in revenues, with 22,000 to 22,500 homes closed. The gross margin is expected to be 21% to 21.5%, and the pre-tax profit margin to be 13.3% to 13.8%. The company's full-year revenue is projected to be $33.3 billion to $34.8 billion, with 85,000 to 87,000 homes closed, and a forecasted tax rate of 24% for fiscal 2025.

The paragraph discusses the company's financial plans and performance, highlighting its intention to repurchase approximately $4 billion of common stock in fiscal 2025, which is more than double the repurchase amount of fiscal 2024. They expect to continue paying annual dividends of around $500 million. Paul Romanowski mentions that their success is due to their experienced teams, market share, geographic presence, and focus on quality, affordable homes. Despite economic volatility, they aim to adapt to market conditions and prioritize long-term value and returns for shareholders. The paragraph concludes with appreciation for the efforts of their employees and partners, followed by the start of a Q&A session, with Stephen Kim from Evercore ISI acknowledging the company's strong performance and asking about the shift in prioritization from being number one in units sold to other metrics.

The paragraph discusses how the company's management approach has evolved over the last 5 to 10 years, focusing on balancing pace and pricing to drive returns and maintain consistent operating cash flows. The management has committed to returning value to shareholders through share repurchases and increased dividends. Paul Romanowski emphasizes maintaining a return-based strategy, while Bill Wheat points out the importance of both returns and consistent cash flows as key metrics. Jessica Hansen expresses confidence in the company’s long-term positioning as the largest builder in the U.S., aiming to maximize returns even as strategies may vary in the short term. The discussion also touches upon the company's historically notable SG&A rate, a point of pride for the company.

In the paragraph, the discussion revolves around the company's cost management strategies, focusing on SG&A (Selling, General, and Administrative Expenses). Despite a historical emphasis on frugality, noted by an anecdote about using paperclips over staples for reuse, SG&A expenses have risen due to strategic investments that expanded the company's market and community footprint. This increase was expected to support higher growth, which hasn't fully materialized due to market conditions, but the company remains optimistic about long-term benefits and anticipates lower SG&A in the future. Furthermore, the third quarter gross margin forecast of 21% to 21.5% surpasses market expectations, which is seen as positive news.

In the paragraph, Michael Murray and John Lovallo discuss the potential impacts of flat incentives on reaching the higher end of a target range, acknowledging challenges in prediction due to recent rate volatility. John Lovallo also asks Paul Romanowski about the potential impact of tariffs on suppliers and price increases. Romanowski highlights the uncertainty surrounding tariffs but expresses confidence in the suppliers’ ability to manage supply chain challenges. He notes that the company's size and scale should help mitigate the impact of tariffs. The conversation ends with John Lovallo appreciating the response and the operator transitioning to the next question from Alan Ratner of Zelman & Associates.

The paragraph discusses the company's current low spec count and a 15% year-over-year decline in starts, contrasting with concerns about rising spec counts industry-wide. Despite fewer starts, efficient cycle times allow the company to maintain market responsiveness and support gross margins. Paul Romanowski indicates that starts are expected to accelerate in the third and fourth quarters, aligning with the spring and summer selling seasons. The company has reduced its completed spec inventory by 2,000 units recently, facilitating efficient inventory turnover and strong operating cash flow. The discussion also touches on potential future strategies, including a return to build-to-order (BTO) if market conditions are favorable, as the company positions itself for growth into 2026.

The paragraph is a segment from a conversation about a company's market strategy, tariff impacts, and performance in specific housing markets. The company feels confident in its growth-oriented approach and ability to meet its current guidance. Regarding tariffs, they do not expect significant price impacts on their gross margin until 2026. The company hasn't seen significant price increases from suppliers yet. Alan Ratner and Carl Reichardt ask questions about the market and order performance, focusing on newer markets with fewer competitors and different community tiers, such as entry-level and higher-end or differentiated communities. The company responds by sharing insights into their expectations and current observations in these areas.

The paragraph discusses trends in the housing market, focusing on first-time homebuyers, who comprise 63% of buyers and are facing affordability issues. Strong demand exists in supply-constrained markets, especially where new community development is restricted. Although there is a discussion about balancing price cuts with incentives like interest rate buydowns, the current strategy prioritizes rate adjustments over price cuts to maintain stable prices. However, in communities where existing incentives do not boost sales, price reductions may be implemented to drive activity.

The paragraph discusses the approach to managing community counts based on local market conditions. Jessica Hansen explains that decisions about community expansions or contractions will depend on sales paces in specific markets and the challenges of developing new lots. If demand remains soft, the company may consider holding or shrinking community counts in 2026. Adjustments will be based on local conditions, and it's easier to slow down community starts than to accelerate them due to the difficulty in preparing finished lots. The conversation revolves around planning and strategizing for fiscal 2026 without providing specific guidance.

In this exchange, Sam Reid asks about the company's strategy regarding delivery expectations and start reductions, particularly in regions like Florida and Texas where market pressures exist. Paul Romanowski responds, indicating that when markets like Texas and Florida soften, the company tends to reduce starts as a reaction to market conditions. However, he notes that the company has also expanded into newer markets with stable activity and limited supply, which they expect to grow beyond initial expectations. This demonstrates a balance in their approach, adjusting strategies on a market-by-market and community-by-community basis. Following this, Michael Rehaut from JPMorgan asks about the company's incentive strategies compared to the broader market. He inquires about the current state of incentives as a percentage of sales compared to previous periods and whether the company is maintaining prices while potentially allowing volumes to decline.

In the paragraph, Paul Romanowski discusses their company's competitive strategy in various markets, emphasizing the importance of local operators who assess and respond to market conditions daily. He notes while sales revenue per unit has stayed flat, the size of homes has decreased, impacting margins as they cater to what buyers can afford. Michael Rehaut inquires about their incentive levels compared to competitors. Romanowski explains it's difficult to generalize as it varies community by community. He highlights their adaptive pricing strategy, balancing between volume and price based on lot availability and market conditions to maximize returns.

The paragraph discusses the competitive strategies of a housing company in attracting and retaining buyers, including offering closing cost incentives and rate buydowns tailored to individual needs. Jessica Hansen highlights the importance of working closely with a financial services partner to manage incentives effectively and maximize buyer traffic. Michael Rehaut inquires about the company's exposure to Canadian softwood lumber and its potential impact on housing prices in the U.S. Paul Romanowski responds, noting that 20% of their lumber comes from Canada and that they will adjust strategies if tariffs increase.

The paragraph features a discussion on how potential tariffs might affect costs and pricing in the housing market by 2026. Eric Bosshard from Cleveland Research asks how these tariffs could lead to inflation and how companies plan to manage this challenge, especially if supply chains can't absorb the costs without raising prices. Paul Romanowski suggests that it involves multiple factors, including labor and vendor profitability, indicating a need for collaboration to adjust costs so the market remains affordable. He mentions that decisions will likely vary by community, involving options like raising prices, adjusting margins, or building lower-cost housing. Jessica Hansen notes that their scale and relationships can help them handle cost pressures better than smaller builders. Eric also acknowledges their strong partnership with Forestar.

The paragraph discusses a conversation involving Michael Murray, who talks about how Forestar and similar relationships are managing the current market situation where they are building fewer homes on less land. This adjustment involves ongoing communication with development partners to align on market demands and timing, sometimes requiring restructuring of lot takedowns to adapt to different project speeds. Murray emphasizes that these partners are experienced and capable of handling market fluctuations. The conversation then shifts to a question from Matthew Bouley about how policy uncertainty and consumer confidence are affecting homebuyer traffic and conversion rates.

Paul Romanowski notes that while there's been decent traffic in the housing market, they've had to offer incentives to encourage people to commit to buying homes. He mentioned that first-time buyers, making up 63% of their mortgage customers, are less impacted by market portfolios and are more focused on securing their first home. Matthew Bouley queries about the delivery outlook for the second half, with an implication of delivering around 48,000 homes, given 37,000 homes in current inventory. Michael Murray responds that a recent increase in sales pace and improved construction times have boosted their confidence in meeting this delivery target. This allows them to respond more quickly to demand in various communities.

The conversation involves a discussion on land costs and SG&A (Selling, General, and Administrative) expenses. Land and lot costs increased by 3% quarter-over-quarter and 10% year-over-year. Despite a softer market and reduced starts, there are no expected decreases in land costs due to the difficulties in bringing new communities online and the limited availability of finished lots. Land costs typically affect cost of goods within two to three quarters. Regarding SG&A, there is an expectation of achieving lower costs as a percentage of sales in the long term due to improved delivery growth rather than market-driven spending reductions. If the market remains soft, any adjustments to SG&A spending are not specified, but leverage through delivery growth is anticipated.

In the article paragraph, Bill Wheat discusses the company's focus on meeting volume guidance and achieving better leverage on SG&A when more homes are closed in Q3 and Q4. The business is managed at a market level, adjusting for factors like overhead and land supply based on market conditions. If there's a decrease in volume that's unlikely to recover soon, adjustments are made accordingly. Trevor Allinson from Wolfe Research inquires about the company's approach to balancing pace versus price amid uncertainty. Michael Murray responds by noting that the company is closely monitoring the market, indicating they have already adjusted absorption and start expectations slightly for the spring selling season, and will continue to evaluate as the summer approaches.

In the discussion, Trevor Allinson inquires about potential reductions in land and development spending due to market uncertainty and increased share repurchase expectations. Bill Wheat responds by explaining that their Q2 land and development expenditures were lower than in the past year and a half. They are adjusting their spending based on sales pace and lot requirements in each market, working with developers to extend development timelines and lot takedown schedules as necessary. Wheat acknowledges that with lower than anticipated volumes, their land spending will decrease accordingly, although they still value their lot positions and flexibility. Trevor Allinson appreciates the insights and wishes them well. The operator then introduces the next speaker, Anthony Pettinari from Citi, who notes an increase in home closings year-over-year in the north and east regions.

The paragraph discusses the factors contributing to a company's year-over-year growth, particularly in the housing market. Michael Murray notes that while few new markets have been entered, regions are historically supply-constrained, leading to high demand as new neighborhoods are developed. Jessica Hansen adds that an increase in community count in the North is also driving growth. On labor costs, Anthony Pettinari inquires about labor inflation, to which Murray responds that labor availability remains stable, assisting in reduced construction cycle times, and the company is well-positioned with labor for upcoming needs. Ken Zener from Seaport Research Partners is next to ask a question.

The paragraph discusses the company's gross margin and pace of sales in their housing communities. Jessica Hansen notes that outside commissions are approximately 270 basis points, down slightly due to fewer homes being closed with realtors. Bill Wheat elaborates that the company has business plans for each community to determine expected sales pace, price, and margin. These plans are adjusted as needed to meet sales pace targets. The focus remains on maintaining expected sales pace across communities to drive returns and cash flow while managing margins.

The paragraph discusses recent changes in community absorption rates and operations during and after the COVID-19 years. The company has increased its community count to maintain operational scale and market share, expecting the absorption rates to return to normal levels. Each community aims to balance the pace of absorptions with margin returns, as both are essential for profitability. Ken Zener raises a question regarding the industry's differences post-COVID, particularly referencing EBIT rates from pre-COVID years and inventory unit expectations for the fourth quarter. Michael Murray responds, indicating that inventory levels are expected to remain flat year-over-year, subject to market conditions. The company is also focused on increasing its inventory turnover rates.

The paragraph is an exchange between analysts and company representatives discussing the company's housing inventory and construction cycle times. The company reports having 8,400 finished homes this year, up from last year but down from the December quarter's 10,400. They plan to reduce overall inventory but increase the speed of home turnover due to improved construction cycle times. As a result, they will increase home starts. The company emphasizes the importance of having completed homes ready for buyers who value the certainty of locked-in rates. The discussion ends with acknowledgment of the company's success in maintaining a low cancellation rate.

The paragraph features a discussion between Michael Murray and Jay McCanless regarding the factors influencing low cancellation (can) rates in house sales. Murray suggests that committed buyers have done their homework by prequalifying with mortgage companies before writing contracts, even amidst market sentiment expressing hesitance to buy homes. He emphasizes the importance of early identification of contracts unlikely to succeed to prevent unsold inventory buildup. Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs shifts the focus to the rental segment, noting an improvement in year-over-year margins despite existing pressures, and praises this positive change.

In the paragraph, Paul Romanowski discusses the impact of the macro environment on their business, highlighting that the main challenge has been managing inventory levels rather than changes in market pace or concessions. They are successfully navigating through the inventory and feel positive about their current developments, particularly in single-family rentals. Susan Maklari then acknowledges the company's increased share buyback despite market pressures, and Bill Wheat elaborates on their strategy, citing the company's strong financial position that allows for increased share repurchase, projecting a $4 billion buyback for the year, which is more than double the previous year.

The paragraph discusses a company's cautious approach to utilizing its cash while maintaining healthy liquidity and a consolidated leverage of around 20%. The flexibility of their financial strategy will depend on business performance and cash flow over the next few quarters. Although they are open to acquiring small private operations, no deals have closed this quarter. The paragraph concludes with expressions of gratitude and future engagement plans, with an announcement to share third-quarter results on July 22.

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