The paragraph is a transcript from Live Nation's First Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. The call is introduced by the conference operator, Joe, who hands it over to Amy Yong. Amy Yong welcomes attendees and introduces the company's President and CEO, Michael Rapino, and President and CFO, Joe Berchtold. She emphasizes that the call will include forward-looking statements and advises reviewing the company's SEC filings for potential risks and uncertainties. The call will also include references to non-GAAP measures, with definitions and reconciliations available on Live Nation's website. The call then opens to questions, with the first question from Brandon Ross of LightShed Partners, who expresses surprise at Ticketmaster’s revenue and AOI being down despite high ticketing activity, hinting at potential timing issues in international markets.

The paragraph discusses various factors affecting the quarterly results of Live Nation and Ticketmaster. Joe Berchtold explains that Live Nation concerts saw a 12% increase in activity, while other promoters and non-concert activities decreased. Overall concerts were up 4%, but other categories like sports, arts, and family activities declined by 9%. This decline is attributed to a supply issue rather than demand. Ticketmaster's deferred revenue increased by 13%, indicating growth in international volume and venue operations, but this will be recognized in future quarters. There is also a trend of later sales timing, with more concert activity expected in the second half of the year.

The paragraph discusses the sales performance and projections for Live Nation and Ticketmaster. It highlights a 22% global sales increase in April and anticipates most fan growth and concerts to occur in the year's second half. While experiencing significant on sales for artists like Chris Brown and Lady Gaga, Ticketmaster faces challenges due to foreign exchange (FX) rates, particularly in Mexico and Latin America, impacting its short-term financials. Despite some headwinds and lower-than-expected Q1 results, there's confidence in growth potential for the year. Brandon Ross inquires about potential consumer slowdown impacts on concerts and sponsorships, and Michael Rapino begins to address these concerns.

In the paragraph, the speaker, presumably a CEO, discusses the lack of consumer pullback in their concert business. Despite concerns about reduced consumer spending, their company has not experienced any decline in ticket sales, sponsorships, or onsite sales. In April, several major artists sold a significant number of tickets, surpassing last year's figures. Sponsorships are also up, with most of the business for the year already contracted. The company has not observed any decrease in consumer spending on food and beverages at events and is continuing to focus on menu pricing and variety. Overall, the company remains optimistic, noting strong consumer demand and no signs of a downturn.

In the paragraph, Joe Berchtold discusses the company's active monitoring of concert performance metrics, including sales and profitability. Despite the challenges of predicting exact margins, he expresses confidence in maintaining similar concert margins in 2025 as in prior years, particularly given the growth in concert volume and effective cost management. Berchtold emphasizes that while profitability may vary with large shows, the company's overall scale and strategic cost handling are expected to keep margins stable. David Karnovsky from J.P. Morgan inquires about future expectations, particularly for the bigger fourth quarter and related expenses, prompting this response.

David Karnovsky asks Michael Rapino about the acquisition of Hayashi, a long-targeted deal that allows their company to enter the Japanese market, one of the largest and toughest music markets in the world, by partnering with an established local promoter. Rapino explains that this strategic move enables them to promote directly in Japan, thereby avoiding reliance on other promoters controlling venue schedules. He expresses excitement about working with a key figure in the industry and sees the acquisition as a significant step that will contribute to their overall business growth over time.

In the paragraph, Joe Berchtold discusses the expected timeline for opening new venues, indicating that four out of twenty will open by the end of the year, contributing to a partial run rate increase for next year, with the full run rate anticipated by 2027. On the regulatory front, he mentions that the company is in the midst of the process with a court case scheduled for March 2026. Currently, they are in the discovery phase, with no material updates or surprises. Joe expresses hope for substantive discussions with the Department of Justice in the future, although such discussions haven't occurred yet.

In the concert segment, there's been a significant improvement in profitability per fan due to the scale of activities relative to cost structure, which is expected to last throughout the year. Although on-site activities in amphitheaters and festivals haven't yet impacted this growth, the current mix and scale have been positive. Cameron Mansson-Perrone inquires about stability in venue mix changes and growth across venue types in the future. Michael Rapino responds by highlighting the increased demand for stadium shows driven by both new and established artists, suggesting a strong consumer demand and acknowledging future variability due to events like the World Cup affecting stadium availability.

The paragraph discusses the challenges and strategies related to booking stadiums and arenas for events, highlighting that finding available dates in stadiums, particularly on prime nights like Thursday through Saturday, is difficult due to competition from other events like the Olympics or sports. Despite these challenges, there is strong and growing global demand for stadiums and arenas, as evidenced by sold-out Coldplay concerts in places like India. The conversation shifts to address ticket pricing strategies and preventing ticket scalping. Peter Henderson from Bank of America inquires about balancing premium pricing without losing the perception of scarcity that drives fan interest, the current state of pricing models, and managing ticket affordability alongside revenue goals. Michael Rapino responds by acknowledging the artists' role as effective brand managers in this context.

The paragraph discusses the challenges artists face in balancing show affordability for fans with rising production costs for large-scale, stadium, and arena events. Artists must navigate ticket pricing to maximize revenue while limiting sales to scalpers, employing strategies like premium pricing for closer seats and more affordable options further back. Each artist approaches these challenges differently, considering factors like show size, costs, and market dynamics, with support from professionals to analyze data and find the optimal pricing strategy.

The paragraph discusses the ongoing evolution of pricing strategies in the live events industry, highlighting the varying levels of sophistication in different global markets, with America being advanced and other regions like Europe, Asia, and South America lagging behind. It emphasizes the complexities involved in pricing decisions, such as the timing and location of shows and seating arrangements. The speaker notes that the industry is still learning to optimize pricing to maximize ticket sales, describing it as a blend of science and art. The response to a question from Benjamin Soff at Deutsche Bank shifts the focus to the positive impact of recent regulatory measures, including the enforcement of the BOTS Act and other transparency measures, on creating a fairer ticketing environment for fans and scrutinizing the secondary market.

The paragraph discusses the enforcement of the BOTS Act to combat ticket scalping, emphasizing the importance of transparency and fair ticket sales for the benefit of fans. It highlights the belief that content creators should have control over their shows and ticket sales. The paragraph then shifts to a conversation between Kutgun Maral from Evercore ISI and representatives discussing concert ticket pricing, indicating an effort to implement more price tiers across venues due to ongoing strong demand. They also address concert margins, expecting them to remain consistent despite mix shifts towards stadiums, and discuss the potential impact of Venue Nation on margins, with Venue Nation expected to see double-digit growth this year.

Joe Berchtold discusses Venue Nation's strategies to increase revenue through various initiatives aimed at enhancing fan experiences and spending, such as accommodating diverse preferences and reducing friction. The goal is to boost the economics of Venue Nation, which in turn helps improve concert business margins. He mentions expected double-digit growth in attendees at their venues, contributing to margin accretion, and suggests that margins will likely be similar to the previous year. Michael Rapino asks for clarification on a question about implementing more price tiers at venues, seeking to understand the rationale behind this strategy.

In the paragraph, Michael Rapino discusses the approach to concert ticket pricing in order to maximize attendance rather than just gross revenue. He highlights the importance of adjusting pricing strategies to reflect the variability in demand across different locations and days. The goal is to sell every seat by setting lower prices for less desirable seats, thereby ensuring full attendance and generating additional revenue from auxiliary sales like parking and concessions. The focus is on tailoring prices based on demand for each market and ensuring affordability for all sections of the venue.

The paragraph discusses the strategies for pricing and payment plans in the context of selling event tickets, emphasizing the use of installment payment options as a familiar and beneficial approach for consumers. It mentions how festivals have historically offered payment plans and how these can influence consumer purchasing decisions. The conversation then shifts to the secondary ticketing market, with David Joyce asking about trends and agreements related to ticket sales, particularly in newer regions and the implications for a DOJ case. Joe Berchtold clarifies that their business model does not include tickets moving directly from their platform to the secondary market, describing the secondary market as more of a feature rather than a standalone business, and notes the distinctions between how it applies to sports versus concerts.

The paragraph discusses the sports distribution channel's practice of selling season tickets that are later broken down into individual game tickets, which brokers often purchase. This segment represents a small percentage of the company's gross transaction value (GTV) annually. The company plans to continue offering these tickets while advocating for industry reforms to enhance fan safety and experience. They do not view this as a growth area and would prefer a decline, indicating better ticket pricing in collaboration with artists. Michael Rapino then thanks the participants and concludes the session, with the operator ending the conference call.

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